New telepathy test, the sequel.

[fagin]

So every telemarketer in Belgium will suddenly be telepathic?

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Yeah, golfy wanted to win the JREF Million Dollar Challenge so he was trying to come up with an acceptable protocol, which would have involved a lot more than a test on an internet discussion board.

What I also find interesting is that, like Michael, golfy also believed that people were lying when they said they couldn't hear his thoughts, and his answer to that was to use a polygraph ("lie detector") in the test. Michael just adds his own subjective interpretation of how credible each answer is, but it's the same idea. At least golfy was trying to be more objective.

Giving the paradoxically situation where the receiver's lies are being revealed by a lie detector operator who is themselves (by the senders belief) receiving the word and lying about it but still is expected to render an accurate test...

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I'm somewhat puzzled as to why one would bother with the million dollar challenge, much less a smaller prize when one could realistically ask approximately six billion dollars a year to repeat the phrase "I really fancy a Big Mac and a Coke right now" a couple of hundred times a day.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I'm somewhat puzzled as to why one would bother with the million dollar challenge, much less a smaller prize when one could realistically ask approximately six billion dollars a year to repeat the phrase "I really fancy a Big Mac and a Coke right now" a couple of hundred times a day.

No point being rich when every crook in the world knows your bank password.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

No point being rich when every crook in the world knows your bank password.

But no one could impersonate you. Anyway some of the newly redundant advertising executives can be tasked with making your transactions for you so you don't need to know your password.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

So every telemarketer in Belgium will suddenly be telepathic?

That confused me for a moment until I got the joke. Well done.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

I thought more about this, simply as an exercise in how to allow Michel Hanck to undertake the SKEPP 25,000 Euro paranormal challenge, in his home country of Belgium, for the least cost.

I have already tried to explain on this forum how I seem to be able to communicate telepathically with animals (cats, dogs, birds) near my building, And this phenomenon is very easy to verify: for example, when a dog is barking, I talk to him/her from inside my apartment with a weak voice (so he/she cannot hear me normally, sensorially), and I study whether there is a reaction, a change (often there is).

A) Michel H can make animals do things.
B) Michel H will not undertake the test as he cannot find a credible human partner.

Here is a simple experiment that satisfies Michel's dilemma. A random exit is chosen and Michel makes the mouse walk through that exit. We repeat this over and over again until statistically significant results can be assessed.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

I thought more about this, simply as an exercise in how to allow Michel Hanck to undertake the SKEPP 25,000 Euro paranormal challenge, in his home country of Belgium, for the least cost.



A) Michel H can make animals do things.
B) Michel H will not undertake the test as he cannot find a credible human partner.

Here is a simple experiment that satisfies Michel's dilemma. A random exit is chosen and Michel makes the mouse walk through that exit. We repeat this over and over again until statistically significant results can be assessed.

Not quite; He'd toss out the failed results and only focus on the hits.

He did this with his first test and all further tests with increasing levels of mental gymnastics.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Here is a simple experiment that satisfies Michel's dilemma. A random exit is chosen and Michel makes the mouse walk through that exit. We repeat this over and over again until statistically significant results can be assessed.

You've failed to account for the possibility of a criminal conspiracy amongst mice to deliberately discredit Michel's claim to be telepathic.

Yes, he'd claim that. You know he would.

Dave

 

[Matthew Ellard]

You've failed to account for the possibility of a criminal conspiracy amongst mice to deliberately discredit Michel's claim to be telepathic.

Yes, he'd claim that. You know he would.

Dave

I realise that. My prime aim was to stop him posting his circular arguments on yet another skeptic forum by setting out simple experiments.

On the other hand, I am somewhat interested to hear if he thinks there are "credible mice" and "non credible mice" and how he justifies throwing out the results from "non credible mice".

I love this sort of weirdness.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

There are credible dormice. They might be ideal.



Oh. No. Wait: That's edible dormice.

 

[Michel H]

A simple telepathy experiment: which word did I write?

I recently wrote one of the four words: "automobile", "boat", "plane", and "submarine" on my paper, and I surrounded it with a rough ellipse.

I ask you to write it here (if you think you know it, even with a doubt).

Also, a comment might be useful. You may say, for example, how confident you are in your choice.

Thank you for participating.

Notes:
1) A SHA-512 hash of a complicated sentence containing the selected word is: FE200D91BC7B83C5A638F5B9CD9F4F1FD8A66A5C5A8B7050D1 8316E56E881E5CA4FBB4D0524F38DA295CAAF1AD8136AECE11 A07C204EC6147C3D628F2FCC3A80
2) Yeggster has already kindly given an answer:

I have circled an automobile, that can fly as areoplane, float on water like a boat, and also submerge in open water, to explore the ocean floor!!

 

[fagin]

My deja vu has deja vu.

 

[Dave Rogers]

The Russians tried to build a submersible seaplane around the time of WW2. If it had been a submersible amphibian plane it would have ticked all four boxes.

Dave

 

[fromdownunder]

Is it February 2 already?

Norm

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

You should write down and circle your phone number while thinking of it. If you're genuinely telepathic, then anybody who genuinely can hear you and isn't wasting your time or being sarcastic will be able to contact you directly. Then you'll be able to apply for - and win - any number of sceptic challenges.

 

[Greebo]

You should write down and circle your phone number while thinking of it. If you're genuinely telepathic, then anybody who genuinely can hear you and isn't wasting your time or being sarcastic will be able to contact you directly. Then you'll be able to apply for - and win - any number of sceptic challenges.

True, also if telepathy did exist the world would be very noisy with hearing everyones thoughts. I'm glad it doesn't.

 

[Donn]

Methinks telepathy may win by relentless repetition.

 

[DuvalHMFIC]

Oddly enough, I thought of Kate Upton riding a rhombus shaped skateboard. Do I score any points?

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Oddly enough, I thought of Kate Upton riding a rhombus shaped skateboard. Do I score any points?

Well, if your answer can be vaguely fitted to one of the answers then the round peg will be relentlessly hammered into the square hole and considered a hit. If not you will be declared insincere and discarded. The only way that ANYONE walks away from this game with any honour is by refusing to play, as others have said it is better not to encourage this delusion.

(Nb. I was was going to give an example of how your obviously joke answer could be fitted to one of the options but I don't want to risk being coincidentally right).