Checkmite
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I think he's just found a way to eat and sleep free for as long as he wants without too much consequence, and is taking it.
Naked Rambler gaoled again
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ohms
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That's my understanding too. Anybody remember the Trafalgar Square fourth plinth project from 2009? I think there were a dozen or so participants who spent their time up there either nude or close to it. None of them were arrested although one or two were warned by the police not to take things too far.
Carnivore
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You are seriously suggesting that the only thing he wants in life is to be locked up in solitary confinement forever? I don't mean to be rude but that seems ... smug.
He has a home he can go to. He would be eligible for benefits. Your opinion of him does not explain his lifestyle prior to being locked up.
Charlie Monoxide
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He would do better working as a nude model for artists.
At least he'd be earning some coin and still adhereing to his "principles".
Charlie (stop imagining me naked) Monoxide
At least he'd be earning some coin and still adhereing to his "principles".
Charlie (stop imagining me naked) Monoxide
geni
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If he mearly wanted to be nude he could make a dash for the boarder before taking his clothes off.
Rolfe
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Gough was under English jurisdiction earlier in his trek, and somehow was not locked up in jail for ten years at that stage.
He's being done for breach of the peace, but entirely on the basis of what the police have decided might breach the peace. This time, they were standing waiting for him as he walked out of Perth prison, and immediately arrested him when he showed his face (and other parts of his anatomy). He was re-arrested less than a minute after being released.
This is not my idea of a good use of my tax takings.
Rolfe.
I agree that he is being treated outrageously at the moment, and to be honest, I hadn't realised that it had been going on for so long, that he'd been in Scotland and in prison for most of the last five years.
The only point I was making, referring to the comparison made with Andrea Hall, was that there might have been a reason why a woman was treated differently from him under English law. He has been arrested and imprisoned more than once in England, while she was not. The law has changed from what I remember but there may still be a disposition to view male and female nudity differently.
Quite. How is it being reported in Scotland? Is it just a curiosity (as it was in the English press when he was arrested, but given fairly light sentences), or is
there a feeling that things are going too far?
rwguinn
Penultimate Amazing
Imagine that! Cops on duty around a prison.
What a waste of tax dollars...
What a waste of tax dollars...
Checkmite
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Are you sure about that?
I Ratant
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I would attend photo shoots at a nude ranch.
The management would hire nude models... being as the average human nude is downright yucky to see all out there. Euuuuuuuuuuuu!
The residents would lounge around in bare ass contentment while we chased the models from location to location.
The younger female residents would tend to wear brassieres, but no panties.
Hadn't fully "bloomed"...
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I got this video yesterday. I love Roy Orbison's singing, and this one does that tune ultimate justice.
It is truly NSFW, but really good!
Beautiful young lady, ....
> <http://player.vimeo.com/video/6779174?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0&autoplay=1>
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I can't recall having ever been to Barcelona, but this would be me...
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Well, I'd hang most of them, but that's a minor difference, I feel.
Re the rambler, I'd let him get on with it. In this day and age, who cares?
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Rolfe
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After having spent a chunk of yesterday evening listening to Ming Campbell tell an audience that lawyers and judges know best because they can properly assess the credibility of a witness and weigh up those subtle nuances of logic denied to us mere plebs, therefore all our criticisms of the Lockerbie trial were groundless, I agree with you.
Hang, draw and quarter.
He was smug, patronising, supercilious, offensive, and completely certain that he, as one of the chosen, was indisputably right and all us plebs were struggling in the amateur league. He lived right down to my expectations.
Rolfe.
Hang, draw and quarter.
He was smug, patronising, supercilious, offensive, and completely certain that he, as one of the chosen, was indisputably right and all us plebs were struggling in the amateur league. He lived right down to my expectations.
Rolfe.
commandlinegamer
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I wonder where he stands on juries, then.
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Weak Kitten
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As far as I'm concerned people can run around nude all they like, just as long as there is a clause in their health insurance that states that the company does not have to pay for any nudity related injury or illness. I don't want my rates going up just because someone else likes to court skin cancer, frost bite and foot injuries!
As to the whole bra thing, I would never run around without one. When you get up into the D cup range a bra is the only thing between you and serious neck and back strain!
As to the whole bra thing, I would never run around without one. When you get up into the D cup range a bra is the only thing between you and serious neck and back strain!
Rolfe
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That little question was left hanging in the air.
The speaker had outlined a part of the case, pretty accurately (might have been Tony Gauci), and said, a Dundee jury would never have returned a guilty verdict on evidence like that. Ming then launched into this polemic about how juries are unsophisticated people who can't read the demeanour or credibility of a witness the way experienced judges can. So the judges should be trusted to have got it right, even though a jury might not have been as wise as they were.
Someone in the audience did say something about it being a damn good thing we usually have juries then, but Ming didn't pick up on him. It was the most blindly self-satisfied performance I've ever seen outwith the rarefied atmosphere of senior academic politicking. My companion said, "he's senile." I replied, "no he's not, he's a bloody lawyer." Out of respect for my companion's political leanings I refrained from saying, he's a bloody LibDem.
Rolfe.
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You know , i have no problem with nudity, but i do want to be able to choose what naked bodies i do and do not view. A gent walking down the street with his wang flapping about takes this choice away from me, and society in general has said " People should be able to choose the nudity they see.".
This guy does not want me to be able to choose not to see him naked, and i am sorry, but this is just another case of, your rights end where mine begin. If he wants to walk around in the nude, more power to him, there are beaches, colonies, temporary and permanent places where he can walk around buck naked all day. Not to mention even in your more standard areas, he is perfectly free to be on his own property naked as the day he was born, any time he wishes, assuming proper caution is taken to avoid others having to see him.
This has nothing to do with state mandated decency, this has to do with one person's want, infringing on another person's right. A right that has been agreed upon by society in general , and so much so that it has been made into a law in most places , ( with the obvious exception of the segments of those places, named above. ).
I can understand this guy wanting to change the law, and more power to him, but he is in a civilized area, as are most of us. If he wants to change this law he needs to show that enough people want to walk around naked that the law itself is no longer reflecting the will of the people. Not simply break the law that he knows will get him arrested, and then cry bloody murder when he gets arrested.
The man is an attention whore, who is more concerned with his own wants than the wants of others. And i am sure i speak for the majority when i say " We don't want to see you naked, brother, put on some ******* pants.".
Has harm been done? Depends on your view of harm, would it be harmful if i could force you to listen to my Gwar discography merely by being in the room ? ( assuming you are not a fan.) TO think of a similar situation, there are plenty of laws saying where and when you can force others to listen to your music , ( around here it is usually between 9 and 9.) and in certain situations, even those laws get extended, because in all civilized countries we have a general principal in law that people should be able to choose what they see and hear to an extent.
Think of his body, in clothing, as someone playing music at a reasonable volume, nothing wrong with that, you might not dig the music but it isn't loud enough to actually bother you. Sans clothes, he is me sitting in a pimped out car blaring We Kill Everything in front of your house. Just by being there, he is making the choice of whether or not to look at his junk, for you. And that is where the line is crossed.
This guy does not want me to be able to choose not to see him naked, and i am sorry, but this is just another case of, your rights end where mine begin. If he wants to walk around in the nude, more power to him, there are beaches, colonies, temporary and permanent places where he can walk around buck naked all day. Not to mention even in your more standard areas, he is perfectly free to be on his own property naked as the day he was born, any time he wishes, assuming proper caution is taken to avoid others having to see him.
This has nothing to do with state mandated decency, this has to do with one person's want, infringing on another person's right. A right that has been agreed upon by society in general , and so much so that it has been made into a law in most places , ( with the obvious exception of the segments of those places, named above. ).
I can understand this guy wanting to change the law, and more power to him, but he is in a civilized area, as are most of us. If he wants to change this law he needs to show that enough people want to walk around naked that the law itself is no longer reflecting the will of the people. Not simply break the law that he knows will get him arrested, and then cry bloody murder when he gets arrested.
The man is an attention whore, who is more concerned with his own wants than the wants of others. And i am sure i speak for the majority when i say " We don't want to see you naked, brother, put on some ******* pants.".
Has harm been done? Depends on your view of harm, would it be harmful if i could force you to listen to my Gwar discography merely by being in the room ? ( assuming you are not a fan.) TO think of a similar situation, there are plenty of laws saying where and when you can force others to listen to your music , ( around here it is usually between 9 and 9.) and in certain situations, even those laws get extended, because in all civilized countries we have a general principal in law that people should be able to choose what they see and hear to an extent.
Think of his body, in clothing, as someone playing music at a reasonable volume, nothing wrong with that, you might not dig the music but it isn't loud enough to actually bother you. Sans clothes, he is me sitting in a pimped out car blaring We Kill Everything in front of your house. Just by being there, he is making the choice of whether or not to look at his junk, for you. And that is where the line is crossed.
How are you with ugly people?
Weak Kitten
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Sadhatter, that is really well expressed. I didn't realize it but that really is how I feel too. I was trying to be open minded and polite but you are absolutely right and I was just lying to myself about my feeling on the matter.
Just as I feel violated when a porn site redirects me from what I thought was a safe website I feel violated when someone forces their nudity on me when I don't want it. I'm not a prude, as an artist I've probably seen more nude men and women then most women my age, but I want it to be on my terms and society agrees that I have that right.
Just as I feel violated when a porn site redirects me from what I thought was a safe website I feel violated when someone forces their nudity on me when I don't want it. I'm not a prude, as an artist I've probably seen more nude men and women then most women my age, but I want it to be on my terms and society agrees that I have that right.