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Multiculturalism rocks!

Just curious here.

A couple people have mentioned that slavery was outlawed in Britian before the African slave trade. Yet I seem to recall from my history lessons (in the US) that British slavers were very involved in the slave trade providing the slaves for America. IIRC most of the slavers bringing slaves to the colonies, then the US were Dutch or British.

My question is this. During that time were British slavers violating British law by participating in the trade, or did British law (at that time) allow for trafficking of slaves, but not the ownership of slaves in Britian proper?
 
Britain was very heavily involved in the slave trade until it was abolished in 1807: Thereafter the navy took a very active part in suppressing the trade
 
Slavery was legal in the UK up until 1807. But there were very few slaves in the UK proper for economic reasons.
But the British colonies,the Southren American Colonies and the colonies in the Carribean were a different story.
The vast majority of Blacks in the UK are descended from fairly recent immigrants from the Carribean.
 
Fiona said:
Britain was very heavily involved in the slave trade until it was abolished in 1807: Thereafter the navy took a very active part in suppressing the trade
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dudalb said:
Slavery was legal in the UK up until 1807. But there were very few slaves in the UK proper for economic reasons.
But the British colonies,the Southren American Colonies and the colonies in the Carribean were a different story.
The vast majority of Blacks in the UK are descended from fairly recent immigrants from the Carribean.
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Thank you, both of you.

I was hoping it was something like this, or otherwise Britian would have come out looking like hypocritical jerks banning slavery in the homeland, while allowing the trading to continue to its allies and empire (and former colonies). So according to your response, dudalb, slavery was not common in UK proper for pretty much the same reasons it was not practiced in the northern colonies. The more industrial economy did not benefit from it as much as the agrarian economy in the southern colonies.

Also I am glad to see that once they banned slavery, they also banned participation in the trade. Now that you mention it, especially the dates, I now recall from my US history, discussing how the southern states were affected by the end of the slave trade (and 1807 seems about right for the timing). On the positive(?) side, slaves were generally better cared for then previously, as they were no longer a replacable commodity. On the truly ugly side, it spawned a domestic push to breed new slaves.
 
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Source:BNP,MPA
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There's your problem, right there. I wouldn't trust the BNP to know how many fingers they are holding up.

Could you please stop giving your location as "Sweden" - I'd rather not people knew I share country of origin with a Rule 12.
 
Hey look, it's Arcade's pal with David Duke:

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Arcade, out of interest, is Duke a 'European' living in America? Are the white people of the US 'European', not American?
 
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Hey look, it's Arcade's pal with David Duke:
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That bastard! :mad:

Arcade, out of interest, is Duke a 'European' living in America? Are the white people of the US 'European', not American?
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Honestly i don't think that he is European but then again i don't really give a damn. I know that there are "white nationalists" who believe we "white people" need to stick together, but then again i don't really think that "race" (depending on what definition you use) is important.

IMO the most important factor is ethnicity, and if i got to rule in Sweden he would not be welcome.
 
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Arcade22 said:
Honestly i don't think that he is European but then again i don't really give a damn. I know that there are "white nationalists" who believe we "white people" need to stick together, but then again i don't really think that "race" (depending on what definition you use) is important.
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Ahhh...so it is purely about skin color. Thanks for being honest and not pulling that "genetics" or race card but just showing a great propensity for just superficial skin color as your criteria.
IMO the most important factor is ethnicity, and if i got to rule in Sweden he would not be welcome.
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Ahhh...so he's not white enough for you.
 
I don't understand, you don't regard Duke as European (Or any other white American) but you do regard Black Britons as 'non-European'. Why is that?
 
Actually, my post was not moderated. I used rule 12 myself as a euphemism for the abelist language I was so sorely tempted to use. But I invite everyone to imagine for themselves what I would have said, had I not decided to be polite today. (I might change my mind tomorrow) - it begins with "f" and ends with "-ard".

What business is UK immigration of yours anyway, if you are indeed Swedish and not British? And are you sure that there is not a teeny, tiny smidgereen of Vallon-blood in your family? (For non Swedes, the likelyhood of that is very high as the Vallons were completely assimilated within a couple of generations.) Because if there are, then under your own logic I'm afraid that you need to move back to Liége, or wherever. You can't pinpoint a European, or a Brit by a set of physical characteristics anymore than you can pinpoint a Swede in that manner.

You make a weak argument, backed up by dubitable sources, about an area in a country that - by how you identify yourself - you have no business with.

You may think that you have something in common with the British just for your physical traits - but you don't. The very people you are slagging off, are the ones who are British.

Jag vet inte vems talan du tror att du för: men det är inte min, och definitivt inte Britternas. Men att dra hittepå-statistik ur arslet är inget bra sätt att föra den på, oavsett.

It's not that people like you make me embarrassed to be Swedish, it's that people like you make me embarrassed to be vertebrate.
 
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Ahhh...so it is purely about skin color. Thanks for being honest and not pulling that "genetics" or race card but just showing a great propensity for just superficial skin color as your criteria.
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Huh? As i said being white isn't really that important. While i definitively like white people more than Blacks/Arabs/Mongoloids the important thing is that he is linked to the Swedish people ethnically.

Ahhh...so he's not white enough for you.
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Nope, has nothing to do with his whiteness.
 
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Huh? As i said being white isn't really that important. While i definitively like white people more than Blacks/Arabs/Mongoloids the important thing is that he is linked to the Swedish people ethnically.
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Ahhhh, so the Rus and Swede descended Ukrainians and Russian must be welcome to immigrate.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
I don't understand, you don't regard Duke as European (Or any other white American) but you do regard Black Britons as 'non-European'. Why is that?
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It's about Ethnicity and has nothing to do about race. I don't know how much the "black" population of Britain has interbreed with Ethnic Englishmen/Scots/etc. but most of them don't seem to be mulattoes.
 
You make a weak argument, backed up by dubitable sources, about an area in a country that - by how you identify yourself - you have no business with.
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Sure, what kind of laws and regulations the British people want is entirely up to them.
You may think that you have something in common with the British just for your physical traits - but you don't. The very people you are slagging off, are the ones who are British.
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Strawman.

Jag vet inte vems talan du tror att du för: men det är inte min, och definitivt inte Britternas. Men att dra hittepå-statistik ur arslet är inget bra sätt att föra den på, oavsett.
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Jag talar bara för mig själv. Du skämmer bara ut dig själv med alla dina halmdockor, men fortsätt slåss med dina väderkvarnar för det är ganska roligt att se dig hålla på.

It's not that people like you make me embarrassed to be Swedish, it's that people like you make me embarrassed to be vertebrate.
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Ahhhh, so the Rus and Swede descended Ukrainians and Russian must be welcome to immigrate.
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Sure if they can prove that they are generally ethnic Swedes and consider themselves Swedes, then sure they can come, but good luck with that one.
 
Arcade22 said:
It's about Ethnicity and has nothing to do about race. I don't know how much the "black" population of Britain has interbreed with Ethnic Englishmen/Scots/etc. but most of them don't seem to be mulattoes.
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The United Kingdom has one of the fastest growing mixed-race populations in the world, fuelled by the continuing rise of inter-ethnic relationships.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/race/changing_face_of_britain.stm
Multiracial Americans have become the fastest growing demographic group, wielding an impact on minority growth that challenges traditional notions of race.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/29/multiracial-americans-bec_n_208989.html
 
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