Multiculturalism rocks!

[paximperium]

Sure if they can prove that they are generally ethnic Swedes and consider themselves Swedes, then sure they can come, but good luck with that one.

Ahhhh, nothing beats a moving goalpost. I thought you were talking about "ethinicity"? Now you have to throw in nationalism as well?

Sorry but Ukrainian and Estonia Swedes are ethinically Swedes. The Rus people are decended from various tribes that would form the Swede "ethinicity".

So how far back is your cut off? What are YOUR criteria for a "Swede"?

 

[zooterkin]

It's about Ethnicity and has nothing to do about race. I don't know how much the "black" population of Britain has interbreed with Ethnic Englishmen/Scots/etc. but most of them don't seem to be mulattoes.

And the difference between ethnicity and race is what, precisely? You appear to be suggesting that race is involved, with your second sentence, which contradicts your first.

 

[cwalner]

originally quoted by Paximperium

Multiracial Americans have become the fastest growing demographic group, wielding an impact on minority growth that challenges traditional notions of race.

Arcade, with this quote in mind, would you consider the current POTUS as American? How about Tiger Woods? Or what about Clinton's secratary of State, Madeline Albright, or California's current Governor? Which would you consider most American?

 

[Undesired Walrus]

It's about Ethnicity and has nothing to do about race.

This isn't an answer. Why are white Americans not European but black Britons aren't?

Out of interest Arcade, my girlfriend is black. Do you disapprove of couples like us?

I don't know how much the "black" population of Britain has interbreed with Ethnic Englishmen/Scots/etc. but most of them don't seem to be mulattoes

Wrong:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/18/race-identity-britain-study

One in 10 children in the UK now lives in a mixed-race family, a major study reveals today,

Half of all men in Britain who have Caribbean heritage and are in a relationship already have partners of a different race.

 

[The Don]

In a related matter, why is someone who has one white parent and one black parent considered black ?

How white does one have to be to be considered white (back in the day 15/16ths covered it) or is it more a case of skin colour ?

The BNP seem fixated on skin colour (according to them, Germans are able to become british, Africans are not)

 

[Arcade22]

Ahhhh, nothing beats a moving goalpost. I thought you were talking about "ethinicity"? Now you have to throw in nationalism as well?

What are you talking about?

Sorry but Ukrainian and Estonia Swedes are ethinically Swedes

I disagree and I am certain that the Ukrainians and Estonians disagree as well.

What are YOUR criteria for a "Swede"?

Generally someone who is more than half Swede and looks like a Swede.

 

[Arcade22]

And the difference between ethnicity and race is what, precisely?

Depends what definition you are using, some people use it as an synonym for Ethnicity. I use the term to mean skin color and general physical characteristics.

You appear to be suggesting that race is involved, with your second sentence, which contradicts your first.

Okay I will explain: We Swedes are a white people and for me too think that you are Swedish you need to generally look like we do. It's as simple as that.

 

[Arcade22]

Arcade, with this quote in mind, would you consider the current POTUS as American? How about Tiger Woods? Or what about Clinton's secratary of State, Madeline Albright, or California's current Governor? Which would you consider most American?

'American' is a nationality, not an ethnicity. So yeah, they are all American.

 

[Arcade22]

This isn't an answer. Why are white Americans not European but black Britons aren't?

It's just a feeling, nothing logical about it, but if DD parents were ethnic Germans that emigrated from Germany then i could probably say that he is European.

Out of interest Arcade, my girlfriend is black. Do you disapprove of couples like us?

Yes, I'd like my country to be as ethnically homogeneous as possible, but its your free choice.

 

[cwalner]

'American' is a nationality, not an ethnicity. So yeah, they are all American.

So are 'British' and 'Swedish'. What was your point again?

 

[cwalner]

Generally someone who is more than half Swede and looks like a Swede.

What about somebody made of felt who ends every sentence with Bork, Bork, Bork. Would he be Swedish?

 

[The Don]

Yes, I'd like my country to be as ethnically homogeneous as possible, but its your free choice.

How much non-Swedish (or Northern-European or whatever) blood is allowed before a person is considered not part of your homogeneity ?

50% ?
25% ?
10% ?
5% ?
2% ?
1% ?

You do of course realise that everyone is ethnically diverse to some degree

 

[Cavemonster]

What about somebody made of felt who ends every sentence with Bork, Bork, Bork. Would he be Swedish?

I won't tolerate that kind of racist language against Muppets.

He was made of Fleece, thank you very much. Felt is an inferior fabric, and you degrade all Muppet Americans and Muppet Swedish by attempting to confuse the two.

 

[cwalner]

I won't tolerate that kind of racist language against Muppets.

He was made of Fleece, thank you very much. Felt is an inferior fabric, and you degrade all Muppet Americans and Muppet Swedish by attempting to confuse the two.

Sorry, I assumed they were made of Felt as that would be more environmentally friendly than Fleece, despite its superiority as a fabric. However, I understand them not wanting to make that sacrifice. After all, Its not easy being Green.

 

[paximperium]

I disagree and I am certain that the Ukrainians and Estonians disagree as well.

So you don't know a thing about your Swede "ethnicity" at all. There are huge communities of Estonian and Ukranians who are direct descendants of Swedish tribes. Some still speak a version of Swedish. The Rus are directly related to Swedes.

Generally someone who is more than half Swede and looks like a Swede.

Ah, a half Swede-Black or Swede-Asian does not meet criteria because he/she does not look "Swede". So we're back to skin color again. Gotcha.

 

[dudalb]

Hey look, it's Arcade's pal with David Duke:

[qimg]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01508/Duke_1508887c.jpg[/qimg]

Arcade, out of interest, is Duke a 'European' living in America? Are the white people of the US 'European', not American?

Jesus, those are the glorious Aryan leaders of the White Race????
Just from that photo, I would not trust them to manage a Corner Lemonade Stand without running it into the ground.

 

[dudalb]

Ahhhh, nothing beats a moving goalpost. I thought you were talking about "ethinicity"? Now you have to throw in nationalism as well?

Sorry but Ukrainian and Estonia Swedes are ethinically Swedes. The Rus people are decended from various tribes that would form the Swede "ethinicity".

So how far back is your cut off? What are YOUR criteria for a "Swede"?

And how much does he know about Scandinavian history that he seems unaware that The first Russian state was founded by Vikings who went for a plundering expedition down the rivers of Russia, and decided to stay?

 

[dudalb]

I wonder what Arcade thinks of the Sami (Laplanders,though that term is outdated) who don't seem to fit in his "visual" definition of a "True Swede",but have been in Northern Sweden and Finland like forever?

 

[cwalner]

I wonder what Arcade thinks of the Sami (Laplanders,though that term is outdated) who don't seem to fit in his "visual" definition of a "True Swede",but have been in Northern Sweden and Finland like forever?

Probably very similar to what racist Americans think about 'redskins' not being true Americans despite the fact that they have lived here much longer than us 'palefaces'

 

[Arcade22]

So are 'British' and 'Swedish'. What was your point again?

I don't know really, i just answered your question.