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Merged Missing children, fugitive parents, and drive-by shootings/Lori Vallow in court.

quadraginta said:
This turns up something I found a bit surprising. Apparently there is a statute in which permits one no-fault disqualification of a judge by a defendant.

I wonder how common that is in other states.

I also wonder why the Lori defense team wants one this time.
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Apparently the defense did not specify a reason for replacing the judge. One possibility that comes to mind is that the defense believes the case against Lori is strong enough that the best strategy is mitigating damage to the (uncooperative) defendant by gambling on a more lenient judge at the preliminary hearing. If the case goes to District Court, Lori will be tried by jury, plea deals notwithstanding. Given the public interest nature of the case, a jury trial is probably the least desirable outcome for the defense.
 
StillSleepy said:
Apparently the defense did not specify a reason for replacing the judge.
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Yeah. I saw that in the defense document requesting the change, (There was a link to it in the newspaper article in the post above.)

One possibility that comes to mind is that the defense believes the case against Lori is strong enough that the best strategy is mitigating damage to the (uncooperative) defendant by gambling on a more lenient judge at the preliminary hearing. If the case goes to District Court, Lori will be tried by jury, plea deals notwithstanding. Given the public interest nature of the case, a jury trial is probably the least desirable outcome for the defense.
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I suppose so, but there is also the possibility of alienating subsequent judges, who can tend as a group to frown on defendants that randomly cast shade on judges in general for no particular reason.

They only get one bite at this particular free apple, so I have to wonder why they decided to take it now.

Maybe the judge in question has a rep as a real hard-ass?
 
gerdbonk said:
Yeah, that's because they don't have two healthy kids to present.
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And that is what concerns me. See, my eldest will be 18 in August and thus legally an adult.

But it has been a hell of a long time since I could get away with the parental authority crap.

Don't get me wrong, I love it. I enjoy nothing more than when he hurls some random logical conundrum at me.

But were I going to court, his question would be can you collect me, or shall I jump on a bus?

Now, I do take just a little pride that I have managed to pass on to my children at least a modicum of critical thinking. But I don't think it is possible to avoid that as a parent anyway. Just look at the Santa fiasco. When I confronted my kids with the Santa reality, they both admitted they were going along with it for the loot.

Then they admitted that the jebus crap was much the same.

As an atheist, I didn't promote that. They reached those conclusions all on their lonesome and I must say I was both surprised and impressed.

We often have bible readings these days. Not because any of us believe it, but because we always end up with me saying that this is what the bible actually says, them going no way and me handing them an actual bible.
 
He didn't lower it enough. I have no idea, I just notice that this is about the only time the defense could use that rule. Otherwise you're gambling on not getting a jury trial before you can change judges.
 
Well, it now appears that Chad was the man with Lori at the storage unit on 2 October based in part on mannerisms and, er, carrying capacity. If so, this means that Alex Cox is back in play for the alleged shooting at Brandon Boudreaux.

The footage shows the man thought to be Chad rolling in a spare tire and carrying in a removable car seat from Lori's Nissan Rogue. Footage from the next day shows someone thought to be Cox carrying out the spare tire and then the car seat (which was mistaken as a tote) with his own strength, despite Lori being present.

It's currently unknown which vehicle the tire and seat are off of.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2020/...same-day-her-relative-was-shot-at-in-arizona/
 
Watching the show about this case, I recall how everyone, grandparents and everyone who knew her referred to her as, "The perfect mother", "The mother that all kids wanted as a mom."

Also, she had been a beauty pageant winner.

And then, almost overnight she becomes an angel of Jesus. The end is near and she needs preparation. Then, the kids vanish. The kids are tied to her revelation, and haven't been seen since.

I really hope they are safe in an alive way. Seeing film of her with her kids when they were all loving each other, adoring each other. I want to believe they are OK because I don't want to believe that level of love could have turned into murder of her children.
 
I hadn't viewed the video attached to the article, but reading the comments alerted me that it appears that Chad grabs Lori's butt while they are leaving. Tammy Daybell was still alive at this time. Watching it for myself, it seems to be the case.
 
A phone hearing was held this afternoon, Judge Farren Eddins has approved the motions to remove himself from the case and push the dates back. A new magistrate will be assigned before the preliminary hearing on 7-8 May.

In the same phone hearing, one of Lori's attorneys, Brian Webb, expressed intent for himself and another attorney, Edwina Elcox, to stop representing her, leaving her with only Mark Means representing. Lori was not present for the hearing.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2020/...llow-daybells-attorneys-plans-to-do-the-same/
 
StillSleepy said:
A phone hearing was held this afternoon, Judge Farren Eddins has approved the motions to remove himself from the case and push the dates back. A new magistrate will be assigned before the preliminary hearing on 7-8 May.

In the same phone hearing, one of Lori's attorneys, Brian Webb, expressed intent for himself and another attorney, Edwina Elcox, to stop representing her, leaving her with only Mark Means representing. Lori was not present for the hearing.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2020/...llow-daybells-attorneys-plans-to-do-the-same/
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That's rarely a good sign.
 
StillSleepy said:
Well, it now appears that Chad was the man with Lori at the storage unit on 2 October based in part on mannerisms and, er, carrying capacity. If so, this means that Alex Cox is back in play for the alleged shooting at Brandon Boudreaux.

The footage shows the man thought to be Chad rolling in a spare tire and carrying in a removable car seat from Lori's Nissan Rogue. Footage from the next day shows someone thought to be Cox carrying out the spare tire and then the car seat (which was mistaken as a tote) with his own strength, despite Lori being present.
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Now that is very curious; and indeed, there goes Cox's alibi. There also goes any notion Chad had nothing to do with or any contact with the family until his actual marriage to Lori, not that it was a serious theory.
 
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This case is almost surreal. It seems bizarre on so many levels, and has been since the beginning. It is a complicated case, and Lori smiles and carries on - not like a grieving mother. When i was raising kids I know i would be miserable if i hadn't seen them for months. For any reason.

But again, Lori smiles and keeps on going, almost smug in her knowledge of where her children are. As to the kids; I have gone from thinking they are certainly dead, to now, I'm about 50/50. I hope, but just don't know.

And, it kept coming up to me comparing my motherhood/nurturing with what Lori has become is unfair to Lori. I must remind myself that she is sick, and there is no comparison.
 
If ever there were an instance in which we could demonstrate that feelings can have economic value, this would be it: Wreaking havoc on your family and taking a vacation to Hawaii is cheaper than having to confront oneself and get the help you can easily afford.

Granted, if you made money from your problems, that kind of reduces the incentive to change.
 
A viral pandemic is not in Revelation, is it? I have to imagine that COVID-19 is only strengthening the resolve of end-of-the-worlders. When everything seems to be falling apart, the smug get smugger.
 
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