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Kerry Infidelity?

Zero said:
I don't know about Clancie, but I am "playing defense" for honesty in the media.
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BS. When Drudge and Newsmax were the only people reporting this you were already out playing defense for Kerry. You weren't campaigning to get the New York Times to walk straight.

Face it, you want Kerry to win and have a subconcious bias. Denial isn't a river in egypt Zero.

Clancie, im holding out hope for you too bub.
 
corplinx said:


BS. When Drudge and Newsmax were the only people reporting this you were already out playing defense for Kerry. You weren't campaigning to get the New York Times to walk straight.

Face it, you want Kerry to win and have a subconcious bias. Denial isn't a river in egypt Zero.

Clancie, im holding out hope for you too bub.
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When biased websites are the only ones reporting something, I am highly skeptical. When something begins with Drudge, its true origin is the Republican National Committee.
 
Or, to put it another way, how would you right-wingers feel about a story which started with Michael Moore?
 
Zero said:
When biased websites are the only ones reporting something, I am highly skeptical. When something begins with Drudge, its true origin is the Republican National Committee.
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What you said was about as sceptical as mind reading or fortune telling.
 
Grammatron said:


What you said was about as sceptical as mind reading or fortune telling.
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Sez you. Drudge is a rumor-monger for the right-wing. Newsmax is an extremist organization. I would no more trust them than I would trust Pravda back in the day.
 
Zero said:
Sez you. Drudge is a rumor-monger for the right-wing. Newsmax is an extremist organization. I would no more trust them than I would trust Pravda back in the day.
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Be that as it may unless you have evidence -- and I did not even see you allude to such -- you can't say where sources originate with absolute certainty and then claim to be skeptical; you are stating a contradiction.
 
Zero said:
When biased websites are the only ones reporting something, I am highly skeptical. When something begins with Drudge, its true origin is the Republican National Committee.
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Yeah, the RNC leaked the Rush Limbaugh story to drudge.

Btw, the Lewinski story was leaked by an ABC journalist IIRC.

Newsmax of course, linked the drudge story because they are right-wing whackos who will link anything that makes their enemies look bad.

Your denial is getting fiercer...... First you say you were playing defense in honesty in media. I pointed out that the problem wasn't in the mainstream media but it these fringe sites. So you just forget what you said earlier and denounce the fringe sites for being fringe sites.


Just say, "I admit it, I want Kerry to win and Bush to lose and thats is my motivation". Its okay to prefer one candidate over the other.
 
Grammatron said:


Be that as it may unless you have evidence -- and I did not even see you allude to such -- you can't say where sources originate with absolute certainty and then claim to be skeptical; you are stating a contradiction.
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"Absolute certainty" is for astrologers and fortune tellers. I have confidence that Drudge is right only by accident, and he reports what he wants to be true, without checking.
 
corplinx said:


Yeah, the RNC leaked the Rush Limbaugh story to drudge.

Btw, the Lewinski story was leaked by an ABC journalist IIRC.

Newsmax of course, linked the drudge story because they are right-wing whackos who will link anything that makes their enemies look bad.

Your denial is getting fiercer...... First you say you were playing defense in honesty in media. I pointed out that the problem wasn't in the mainstream media but it these fringe sites. So you just forget what you said earlier and denounce the fringe sites for being fringe sites.


Just say, "I admit it, I want Kerry to win and Bush to lose and thats is my motivation". Its okay to prefer one candidate over the other.
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I don't understand what you are getting at...the problem is in the fact that the media will report the reporting of a fringe site as being accurate.
 
Zero said:
"Absolute certainty" is for astrologers and fortune tellers. I have confidence that Drudge is right only by accident, and he reports what he wants to be true, without checking.
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That's not skeptical either, nor does it prove it came from RNC.
 
Zero said:
I don't understand what you are getting at...the problem is in the fact that the media will report the reporting of a fringe site as being accurate.
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Quotes and references please. And make sure these quotes and references:
A) refer to the drudge story, not the Imus/Kerry thing
B) report it as fact
 
Look at Drudge trying to cover his behind:
"As first reported in this space, a serious investigation of the woman and the nature of her relationship with Sen. John Kerry has been underway ....."

"She would joke that she was dating the next president of the United States, says a source.

Polier's flippant remarks and flirtatious manner, according to friends, fueled the intrigue."

Yeah its her fault you jumped the gun Matt.

And he still carries the blurb about the father calling him a sleazeball.
http://drudgereport.com/mattjk7.htm

He also carries a story that no one would have been surprised if Kerry did lie.

So instead of being a man about it Drudge says, "Well it could have been true."

He needs to be slapped.

By the way the alleged quote from Clark is now reported as Kerry "might" implode, not that he "will", a big big difference. Especially if you say it out loud. Sounds like jocular speculation.
 
Kerry

I have still not seen a bit of evidence that the allegations about Kerry are true.

I have seen statements, which I assume are real, by the girl and her parents that they are not true. These statements seem to be credible.

This just appears to be a "dirty politics trick".

I believe that the one's who perpetuate these things, need to realize that they can backfire.

This seems to be a dead issue now for me.
 
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nightwind said:
I have still not seen a bit of evidence that the allegations about Kerry are true.

I have seen statements, which I assume are real, by the girl and her parents that they are not true. These statements seem to be credible.

This just appears to be a "dirty politics trick".

I believe that the one's who perpetuate these things, need to realize that they can backfire.

This seems to be a dead issue now for me.
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It'll be a dead issue if we learn something, otherwise that nasty ole history has a way of repeating itself.
 
"She would joke that she was dating the next president of the United States, says a source"

A neighbor of mine has reported pixies on another neighbors lawn, this person described exactly the conduct one could expect from pixies on a persons lawn, when interviewed the source said that they did not want to be identified because they were afraid of the repercussions from the pixies in general.

Several other unnamed sources have reported disturbances emanating from the direction of that persons house. Loud unearthly noises, strange speech ( as one person described like it was in an unknown language) small strangely dress creatures going to and fro.

When this reporter tried to interview the person on who's lawn the pixies appeared had the door slammed in his face, suspicions arose. If this person had nothing to hide why did they slam the door in my face? Obviously something here is worth a second look .....back to you Tom.....

Thanks Brian, ....Brian Python at the White House this Easter Sunday , more in a moment............
 
The issue of infidelity is a dead issue (if it ever was one). The big issue is, who tried to derail Kerry.
 
I have spent a few minutes running this (Kerry/intern) rumor down, though I cannot justify the time spent from work.

The first mention of it that I can find comes down to "watchblog.com" on February 6th. This is several days -before- it seems to have appeared on the Drudge wesite.

Watchblog is run by Cameron Barrett, who works for the Clark campaign -- he set up the Clark web presence for his campaign run, IIRC.

Obviously, Rowe has insinuated a right-wing agent into deep cover within the Clark camp. . . .

or maybe, just maybe, everyone is just using the complete lack of hard data as a verbal Rorschach test -- and the way we fill in the blanks tells everyone much more about ourselves than it does about what's really happening?

N/A
 
corplinx said:


Quotes and references please. And make sure these quotes and references:
A) refer to the drudge story, not the Imus/Kerry thing
B) report it as fact
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I guess I can just ignore you, then...
 
Zero said:
I guess I can just ignore you, then...
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I'll one-up you by putting you _on_ ignore. Welcome to the club jj and tmy occupy of people on this forum who never have anything insightful or provocative to post and seem to get their political views from listening to top 40 FM deejays.

You are in good company. I call it the "kids table".
 
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