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Maybe this thread should be the repository of smears:
1. Botox
2. Jane Fonda
3. Sex
4. ___________ (Watch this space)

The man has three purple hearts, a silver star and a bronze star.
Let's assume Bush showed up and "fulfilled his committment."
Give the man a cookie.
 
HarryKeogh said:
www.drudgereport.com

if true, just in time to ruin a good thing.

actually, it probably doesn't need to be true either.
Love your second sentence, Harry. People who smear are not concerned with truth as much as defeating their opponent. And they know that many don't care to check the background or sources of a statement either, therefore helping seal the deal.

As always, the Daily Howler has something to say: “Intern!” It’s rapidly becoming the root word of “Internet!”
 
Posted by subgenius

Maybe this thread should be the repository of smears:
1. Botox
2. Jane Fonda
3. Sex
4. ___________ (Watch this space)

The man has three purple hearts, a silver star and a bronze star.
Let's assume Bush showed up and "fulfilled his committment."
Give the man a cookie.
I'd like to add to the list...

4. Questioning his heroism

Wolf Blitzer's CNN piece on Kerry which said "some people" (no particular person mentioned) thought Kerry's actions in Vietnam were the result of "impulsive behavior" that he had a problem with controlling. :rolleyes:

5. Questioning his patriotism

Last night Paula Zahn covered the election and interviewed a veteran who was given a lot of time to say how "Kerry disgraced his uniform" and disgraced all the veterans and servicemen who love this country when he threw his medals [sic, they were fakes] on the ground during one anti-war protest.

When Zahn asked if he felt the Vietnam war was a "just" war, he hemmed and hawed and finally said, "I refuse to answer that." Then he repeated that, whether the war was or wasn't right, Kerry's actions disgraced his country.

All this, and it's only February!!!!
 
Peter Jennings just spent 10 seconds on the Kerry infidelity story on ABC News.
 
Why is this being seen as a Bush vs. Kerry issue? The only people reported to be connected to this are the people in competing Dem camps. Realistically, it wouldn;t make any sense for a Republican to raise this issue now... they'd sit on it for a few months, wait for Kerry to establish a rhythm and get comfortable as the Dem presidential candidate, and then spring it on him hoping to throw him off balance and off-message.

An anyone who thinks that the right has a monopoly on dirty tricks is hopelessly naive.
 
"The only people reported to be connected to this are the people in competing Dem camps."
Matt Drudge in a Dem camp?
No one in a "Dem camp" has confirmed the story. Clark to whom a quote is attributed has endorsed him.
Wouldn't make sense for the R's to raise it now? Might be wrong on that? Naw, no way. Spend 10 pages defending that position.
Poor try.
 
What evidence do you have that the story originated with the Repubs, as opposed to the Dems cited in the piece? Why would it be better for the Repubs to release this now as opposed to later when Kerry is the anointed Dem candidate?
 
subgenius said:
[BMatt Drudge in a Dem camp?
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Matt Drudge scooped the release of the Limbaugh drug story. The point is, Drudge goes for the big scoop regardless of party.
 
If there isn't a revelation within a week or two, then it's likely that the story was a fabrication or rumor. Several pieces don't fit together: Clark supposedly told a handful of reporters about the infidelity and predicted that Kerry would "implode", but then Clark dropped out. If he knew Kerry would go down, then why would he quit? Also, Drudge didn't name a single one of the reporters that reportedly overheard Clark say that, so there's nobody who can backup his claim. The story about the woman running away to Africa is suspicious too.
 
Why? The woman has been named... this isn't merely some unnamed aide. The woman's father is apparently spitting mad at Kerry.
Clark is toast regardless of Kerry's status. He never appealed to anyone, and the more he opened his mouth, the worse it got. His latest allegations that the Clintons asked him to end the Bosnian war early so as not to interfere with Gore's campaign were the final nails in his coffin.
 
corplinx said:


Matt Drudge scooped the release of the Limbaugh drug story. The point is, Drudge goes for the big scoop regardless of party.
I read Drudge all the time. His bias is obvious however.
 
Why wuold it matte to Clark either way? He's out. His endorsement will mean, realistically, next to nothing. Whatever his motive, an endorsement by him has no nearing on whether or not he could have been the source, as was reported.
 
crackmonkey said:
Why wuold it matte to Clark either way? He's out. His endorsement will mean, realistically, next to nothing. Whatever his motive, an endorsement by him has no nearing on whether or not he could have been the source, as was reported.
1. Oh come on you can think of several reasons why it would matter to endorse someone who might go down in disgrace.
2. His endorsement means something (votes of his supporters).
3. His endorsement has some bearing on whether he was the source or whether the quote is true (see#1).

Could you be wrong, (I could)? If not, end of discussion.
The question was why he would endorse someone that would prove an embarrassment to himself. You wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Is he just not as smart as you?
 
subgenius said:

Could you be wrong, (I could)? If not, end of discussion.
The question was why he would endorse someone that would prove an embarrassment to himself. You wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Is he just not as smart as you?

Eh, Clark's not a real democrat, anyway. Probably part of the great, right wing conspiracy!
 
Of course I could be wrong... I don;t even know if there's anything to this. I'm merely saying that it's not necseearily untrue, or that it's a given that it's a Republican smear as you implied.
If Clark was the source of this and then Kerry went down in disgrace, Clark would be in some very good company. I can't see how being shoulder-to-shoulder with the movers and shakers of the Dem party would hurt Clark in any way.
It's certainly not a given that this info would knock Kerry out of the race. My scenario isn;t at all implausible, much as you'd like to attribute this flap to Republicans. Internecine warfare is never pretty, but it happens. What do you think Chris Lehane was known for? He's backstabbed far more Dems than he's attacked Reps.
 

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