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Kansas and the TV show Cosmos

Brainster said:
Yes, it's not that liberals are so gullible that they will believe anything negative about conservatives.
:rolleyes:
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You're right, it must be that. It's certainly NOT that the GOP is full of religious lunatics who think that evolution, the Big Bang, and embryology (?!) are "lies straight from the pit of hell"; or that disabled children are God's punishment for abortion, or that climate change can't be real because God promised Noah he wouldn't let the earth be destroyed again, or that we are close to the End Times.

Just kidding. Those are all true, and the GOP is full of religious lunatics. Are you also ok with this?
 
The new bill is the brainchild of an ironically-named Kansas State Senator: Tom Edison (R). “Cosmos is a liberal brainwashing program, designed to force our children into questioning the existence of our lord and savior Jesus Christ,” Edison said during a recent interview on one of the Fox affiliates under the gun. “It’s a keystone of the liberal agenda that America’s youth be converted into following their so-called `logic,’ so conservatism dies out in a generation or two. Well, we aren’t going to stand for this. We aren’t going to let this TV show ruin our children.”

See more at: http://nationalreport.net/kansas-black-cosmos-show-controversies/#sthash.cHDdOjxG.dpuf
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What's wrong with being right??

http://tinyurl.com/lr5szj6
 
Unabogie said:
Daily Currant isn't on the list? I see that one all the time.
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It was listed, problem was the default sort was not set so it and two others showed up under "T". I've just fixed those three now.

icebear said:
What's wrong with being right??

http://tinyurl.com/lr5szj6
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Homo neanderthalensis did not evolve into Homo sapiens, although we did cross breed in the past. You should take a high school level biology course someday so you can avoid really silly mistakes like this.
 
korenyx said:
I live in Kansas and there are people here who would do something like that. I think the only reason they didn't think of it is because they're too busy stopping abortion, gays and taxes.
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There's also the fact that state governments cannot stop local television stations from airing anything, nor do they have the power to fine such stations for any broadcast-related reasons, that being solely the province of the Federal Communications Commission. Really guys, the tip-off that this article was satire was right there in the very premise, stated in the first two paragraphs. There's no excuse really for having to get "halfway through" the article before realizing it's bogus.
 
Checkmite said:
There's also the fact that state governments cannot stop local television stations from airing anything, nor do they have the power to fine such stations for any broadcast-related reasons, that being solely the province of the Federal Communications Commission. Really guys, the tip-off that this article was satire was right there in the very premise, stated in the first two paragraphs. There's no excuse really for having to get "halfway through" the article before realizing it's bogus.
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We're talking about a party that has tried to legislatively de-fund ACORN multiple times after the organization ceased to exist. Why should the fact that a law is blatantly unconstitutional/irrational/impossible stop the wing nuts from trying to pass it? When has it stopped them before?
 
maxpower1227 said:
We're talking about a party that has tried to legislatively de-fund ACORN multiple times after the organization ceased to exist.
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So someone didn't get the memo; it's definitely an embarrassing oversight. But ACORN certainly could have been defunded by those exact means while it did exist; it would've been proper procedure.

A state passing laws over broadcasting doesn't even resemble proper procedure; it would be like a state trying to pass laws regarding licensing of pilots, or trying to dictate Navy uniform regulations within its borders.
 
Alright, fair enough. That aspect honestly never occurred to me while I was reading the article, as I'm not intimately familiar with the scope of the FCC's powers, so it didn't set off a flag. The quotes from the (entirely fictional?) rep in question were fairly incredible, though.
 
Puppycow said:
Even that seems to have been an accident. There was plenty of other talk about evolution that didn't get cut out.
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But in that same article it says:

But elsewhere in KOKH's home town of Oklahoma City, people really are trying to alter how evolution is presented—in the public schools' science classrooms. The state House of Representatives has just passed a bill that would keep any school authorities from punishing a teacher for doing, well, anything when it comes to students' understanding of scientific theories, essentially inviting them to bring in non-scientific material in order to attack evolution.

In fact, "biological evolution, the chemical origins of life, global warming, and human cloning" were all mentioned as likely subjects where teachers should be protected in the original bill, but they were stripped out in later versions. The bill also explicitly disavows that any of this is religiously motivated. However, the language of the bill (and many others introduced in recent years) is taken from a template provided by The Discovery Institute, an overtly religious think tank that promotes intelligent design.
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So really, is it so far out of the realm of possibility that some other state legislature would pass an equally dumb law in order to protect their kids ears from that nasty science?
 
paulhutch said:
It was listed, problem was the default sort was not set so it and two others showed up under "T". I've just fixed those three now.



Homo neanderthalensis did not evolve into Homo sapiens, although we did cross breed in the past. You should take a high school level biology course someday so you can avoid really silly mistakes like this.
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Humans never interbred with Neanderthals.

That amounts to thinking that a Neanderthal male could/would rape a woman and, rather than cooking and eating her afterwards as usual, somehow or other keep her alive long enough to bear a cross-species child, raise that child to reproductive age, and have him/her breed back into human populations without anybody catching on... That's basically idiotic.

In real life:
Neanderthal females would kill that woman the first time her new owner left her alone for ten minutes.
The woman wouldn't fare any better than the subjects of the commie attempts to breed humans and apes into super workers in the 1930s.
Humans would notice the child was different (really different...)
And humans would kill that child and everybody else like him as part of the same program which killed out the Neanderthal. They would not need DNA tests to determine who to kill for that sort of reason, it would be exceedingly obvious.
 
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Another way to look at it: horses and donkeys are very much closer to each other than humans were to Neanderthals and all mules are sterile. Likewise James Shreve noted (Neanderthal Peace 1996) that there was no physical evidence on the planet of such cross breeding.
 
Unabogie said:
But in that same article it says:



So really, is it so far out of the realm of possibility that some other state legislature would pass an equally dumb law in order to protect their kids ears from that nasty science?
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Problem is, evolution REALLY IS a nasty business. There actually are flavors of junk science which are relatively harmless, but evolution is not one of those. Evolution was the philosophical corner stone of Nazism, Communism, all of the sundry eugenics programs and the out of control arms race which led to WW-I.

Evolution is a flavor of junk science with some 200,000,000 dead human bodies to its credit. In a perfect world, the teaching of evolution would have been banned the day WW-II ended.
 
icebear said:
Humans never interbred with Neanderthals.

That amounts to thinking that a Neanderthal male could/would rape a woman and, rather than cooking and eating her afterwards as usual, somehow or other keep her alive long enough to bear a cross-species child, raise that child to reproductive age, and have him/her breed back into human populations without anybody catching on... That's basically idiotic.

In real life:
Neanderthal females would kill that woman the first time her new owner left her alone for ten minutes.
The woman wouldn't fare any better than the subjects of the commie attempts to breed humans and apes into super workers in the 1930s.
Humans would notice the child was different (really different...)
And humans would kill that child and everybody else like him as part of the same program which killed out the Neanderthal. They would not need DNA tests to determine who to kill for that sort of reason, it would be exceedingly obvious.
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And you know this how?
 
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