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Merged Israel Attacks Iran /Yet Another Country/Iran

"Anti-war" activists organizing the protests for the Democratic National Convention in August cheered the news of Iran's attack.

But then a man stumbles to the podium, wiping sweat from his forehead. He grabs the microphone to announce that the Islamic regime of Iran has launched missiles and drones heading straight toward Israel.

“They believe that they will be in Palestinian—I don’t call it Israeli—airspace between two and four a.m., which means about two to four hours from now,” he says. “In addition, there are reports of drones having been fired on Israel from Yemen and Iraq.”

The crowd, all wearing black N95s, erupts into applause. Someone in the back lowers their mask to send a celebratory whistle soaring throughout the room.
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I particularly like the part of the video accompanying the article where they teach people how to chant "Death to Israel" in Farsi. Naturally with that as the appetizer, they can't resist a few "Death to America" chants.

Apparently Iran is now one of the "good guys":

“Iran is part of the resistance,” said the woman, who flew in that morning from New Orleans, where she’s been part of an effort to disrupt Israel-bound shipments in her hometown. “Yemen and Iran and Hezbollah, who are also a militant group in Lebanon, and the Syrian government are all parts of the arc of resistance.”

A smile creeps across her face as she tells me: “They’re part of the arc of resistance because the enemies are Israel and the USA.”
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Brainster said:
"Anti-war" activists organizing the protests for the Democratic National Convention in August cheered the news of Iran's attack.

I particularly like the part of the video accompanying the article where they teach people how to chant "Death to Israel" in Farsi. Naturally with that as the appetizer, they can't resist a few "Death to America" chants.

Apparently Iran is now one of the "good guys":
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Who says they are "anti-war"? Looks like MAGA Fake News.
 
Hercules56 said:
I call BS. Prove they identify as "anti-war".
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Sure:
After the boos and calls of “shame” subside, Abudayyeh says it is “incumbent” upon Americans to “stop the United States from expanding this war and hitting Iran.”

“We’ve got to be the strong, powerful anti-war movement that we are,” he says, placing the microphone down and exiting the stage.
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Now apologise.
 
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trustbutverify said:
Sure:


Now apologise.
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They are not really anti war, they fully support Iran's attack on Israel.
IMHO just like Trump greenlit and lot closet racist and fascist, Gaza has greenlit a lot of Neo Marcist radicals. A lot of them have come of the closet with all the psuedo revolutinary rhetoric going aorund.
 
Brainster said:
"Anti-war" activists organizing the protests for the Democratic National Convention in August cheered the news of Iran's attack.



I particularly like the part of the video accompanying the article where they teach people how to chant "Death to Israel" in Farsi. Naturally with that as the appetizer, they can't resist a few "Death to America" chants.

Apparently Iran is now one of the "good guys":
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Nothing new.
The alliacne between the redical left and the Fundy Islamic regimes and groupis in the Mideast is the oddest alliance since the Hitler Stalin pact.
 
webfusion said:
What does Israel have to gain by 'striking' Iran?

The Hezbollah just is sitting tight.
The Houthis are getting tired of firing projectiles that are intercepted easily.
The Hamas is out of steam.

Israelis are looking forward to a peaceful holiday week of Passover (April 22-30), with family picnics, restaurants filled, hiking in the national parks, music, and matza.
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I guess I am ignorant but i thouHT Passover always coincided with Easter.
 
dudalb said:
They are not really anti war, they fully support Iran's attack on Israel.
IMHO just like Trump greenlit and lot closet racist and fascist, Gaza has greenlit a lot of Neo Marcist radicals. A lot of them have come of the closet with all the psuedo revolutinary rhetoric going aorund.
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I'm aware of it, but that wasn't the issue.
 
Hercules56 said:
They're Socialists/Antifa types.

Definitely not "anti-war".
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Hercules56 said:
I call BS. Prove they identify as "anti-war".
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trustbutverify said:
Sure:


Now apologise.
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Hercules56 said:
One guy claims they are "anti-war"? Not enough.
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Not enough, you say?
OK.
At that meeting, we have the aforementioned Hatem Abudayyeh, part of an anti-war movement, who has been quoted before.
Then there's this group:
Earlier that day, before news of the attack broke, at a “breakout session” on “the anti-war movement,” Shabbir Rizvi, an organizer with Anti-War Committee Chicago, taught participants how to chant “death to Israel” and “death to America” in Farsi.
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I'm going out on a limb here, but I would hazard a guess that the Anti-War Committee could well identify as being anti-war. There's also a good chance that the breakout session on the anti-war movement indicates some kind of opposition to war.
Next, we have the Freedom Road Socialist Association. If you go to their website, you will see this statement, about opposing a wider war in the Middle East. At the bottom of the article, you can see an 'anti-war' tag. Again, I may be reaching, but I would say that 'anti-war' probably means 'anti-war'.
Now you can apologise.
 
Lplus said:
What's the view on the street out there in Saudi? Or are the locals keeping their views to themselves?
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The latter: discussion of such things can be hazardous. I teach in a university, and any hint of politics has to be kept out of the classrooms. My co-teachers are either native speakers (mainly South African) or Sudanese and Egyptians. Again, discussions are not a wise move. The Saudi intelligence services have people everywhere, including in the classrooms, so you have to be very, very careful what you say or it could be big trouble.
The Saudi government's policy, as it is with almost everything is to say "Someone should do something (but not us)." This is reflected in the (totally controlled) press.
Interestingly, though, I read this article this morning:
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2493631/saudi-arabia

The Saudis are denying that they helped Israel to defend against the drone attacks.
I did a little digging, and it looks as if- incredibly- there may be some truth in it. Jordan appears to have shot down a number of drones that were passing over its airspace, and there are hints that other Arab states did the same. Also, it seems that the Arab states were warned by Iran that the attack would happen, and they in turn passed that information on to the US and Israel- and possibly sent further warnings after.
If you'd asked me a few years ago whether the Gulf states would ever defend Israel, I would never have believed it. How times change!
While it was already known that Jordan actively participated in the downing of drones heading to Israel through its airspace, the Journal report for the first time revealed the scope of joint activities stretching across the region, and that included countries that have no diplomatic ties with Israel.

The report cited officials as saying that the success in stopping so many drones and missiles was due to Arab countries having passed on intelligence about the Iranian plan, as well as enabling the use of their airspace and providing radar tracking. In some cases, Arab militaries took an active role in intercepting the threats and “supplied their own forces to help” the report said, indicating that Jordan was not the only Arab nation to do so.
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/repor...-arabia-provided-intelligence-on-iran-attack/
 
Cosmic Yak said:
The latter: discussion of such things can be hazardous. I teach in a university, and any hint of politics has to be kept out of the classrooms. My co-teachers are either native speakers (mainly South African) or Sudanese and Egyptians. Again, discussions are not a wise move. The Saudi intelligence services have people everywhere, including in the classrooms, so you have to be very, very careful what you say or it could be big trouble.
The Saudi government's policy, as it is with almost everything is to say "Someone should do something (but not us)." This is reflected in the (totally controlled) press.
Interestingly, though, I read this article this morning:
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2493631/saudi-arabia

The Saudis are denying that they helped Israel to defend against the drone attacks.
I did a little digging, and it looks as if- incredibly- there may be some truth in it. Jordan appears to have shot down a number of drones that were passing over its airspace, and there are hints that other Arab states did the same. Also, it seems that the Arab states were warned by Iran that the attack would happen, and they in turn passed that information on to the US and Israel- and possibly sent further warnings after.
If you'd asked me a few years ago whether the Gulf states would ever defend Israel, I would never have believed it. How times change!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/repor...-arabia-provided-intelligence-on-iran-attack/
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Thanks for the info.

I can see the reason Saudi would need to deny participating in intercepting drones, but there's Intercepting and "intercepting" - the latter involving tracking and passing the information on - much easier to do covertly.

Religious sectarianism can make for some strange bedfellows.
 
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