Good Pick for EPA

[Norman Alexander]

Yep, let's go back to those heady days before any air pollution controls ruined the fun times.

For five days in December 1952, London gasped for air. A toxic fog smothered the British capital, paralyzing the city and blackening out the sun. Take a look back at the worst air pollution disaster in British history, which is estimated to have killed at least 4,000 Londoners.

http://www.history.com/news/the-killer-fog-that-blanketed-london-60-years-ago

 

[Jerrymander]

no if every tree was cut down there would be none left, did you realize that? Did you also realize the EPA is for managing timber, its all their other ridiculous rules and ideas.

Its not just about numbers, its about quality and habitat. Do you realize that?

God forbid we stop you from cutting down old growth forests and replacing them with plantations.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Yep, let's go back to those heady days before any air pollution controls ruined the fun times.

You don't have to travel in time, just regular travel can take you to that kind of thing. Mexico City, Beijing, and New Delhi have significant air pollution problems.

 

[tyr_13]

Funny how all the regulations the right wing complains about are things like safe storage and disposal, rules against habitat destruction, and the like, but not ever regulatory capture.

I'm not be sardonic. It's very puzzling to me that the over-zealous regulations that I regularly complain about are never brought up by the right-wing, even though rationally competing businesses should be up in arms over regulatory capture. Instead it's about how they want to dump their waste where ever and dig up public lands, or destroy their own property until someone else pays for their externalized costs.

 

[tyr_13]

You don't have to travel in time, just regular travel can take you to that kind of thing. Mexico City, Beijing, and New Delhi have significant air pollution problems.

Well, as long as you have mass, you kind of do.

 

[Aepervius]

I don't know a single person on the right who needs or wants a "safe space", that was completely invented by the loser cowards on the left.

And yet it is pretty much only the right only which complain and try to smuggle in prayer time in school, or ask for special snowflake treatment of "evolution is only a theory"., or try to have their own little christian advantage, 10 commandment monument and so forth.

 

[BigFace42]

And yet it is pretty much only the right only which complain and try to smuggle in prayer time in school, or ask for special snowflake treatment of "evolution is only a theory"., or try to have their own little christian advantage, 10 commandment monument and so forth.

How about their 'I don't want to have to see them kissing' wah wah bit?

 

[Aepervius]

How about their 'I don't want to have to see them kissing' wah wah bit?

Heck or even their "i want to tell YOU what YOU do with your gonads" bit.

 

[marplots]

Heck or even their "i want to tell YOU what YOU do with your gonads" bit.

I don't even want to know that people have gonads, much less make policies about them.

 

[Darat]

Even with the EPA this still happens: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...n-montana-after-landing-on-contaminated-water

 

[erlando]

You don't have to travel in time, just regular travel can take you to that kind of thing. Mexico City, Beijing, and New Delhi have significant air pollution problems.

Paris

http://www.france24.com/en/20161207-paris-winter-air-pollution-worst-10-years

 

[Arcade22]

We might as well get as much out of the ground as possible, and use some of the money to fund a longshot R&D effort, either for carbon sequestration and/or geo-engineering.

Yeah keep on marching to your doom while hoping for some savior or miracle that's going to save you. Don't bother saving yourself!

 

[Meadmaker]

You don't have to travel in time, just regular travel can take you to that kind of thing. Mexico City, Beijing, and New Delhi have significant air pollution problems.

It used to be you didn't even have to travel that far. I lived in LA in the late 80s, for a year. There were several reasons for me not staying in LA, but a really big one is that I didn't like the air, and I assumed it would only get worse with time.

Fortunately, it hasn't. All those burdensome regulations actually worked.

Now I guess we'll get to see what happens to those burdensome regulations with Trump at the helm.

 

[Stacko]

Yep, let's go back to those heady days before any air pollution controls ruined the fun times.


http://www.history.com/news/the-killer-fog-that-blanketed-london-60-years-ago

Not as deadly but more local.

The 1948 Donora smog was a historic air inversion that resulted in a wall of smog that killed 20 people and sickened 7,000 more in Donora, Pennsylvania, a mill town on the Monongahela River, 24 miles (39*km) southeast of Pittsburgh. The event is commemorated by the Donora Smog Museum.

Sixty years later, the incident was described by The New York Times as "one of the worst air pollution disasters in the nation's history".[2] Even 10 years after the incident, mortality rates in Donora were significantly higher than those in other communities nearby.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Donora_smog

 

[3point14]

Okay, but how many of these disasters affected rich people who can afford lobbyists?

 

[Hlafordlaes]

No, great Trumpian move. G'won, put yet another ignorant fox in to fix the hen house. Depending on what some of these stellar nominees do, one might accuse the US of state-sponsored terrorism. Nothing short of a gun to the world temple, with the obligatory outlaw guffaw.

This'll sure learn those pesky grandkids. They have to make their own planet, just as this generation.... gosh, just as nobody ever did or could.

 

[3point14]

Has anyone read the Ben Elton novel, Stark?

 

[Belz...]

Depending on what some of these stellar nominees do, one might accuse the US of state-sponsored terrorism.

I'm starting to wonder if they are deliberately making the worst possible picks in order to damage America. At this point it's no longer a crazy theory.

 

[3point14]

I'm starting to wonder if they are deliberately making the worst possible picks in order to damage America. At this point it's no longer a crazy theory.

You make the mistake of thinking that outcomes for the whole of America are even in their thinking.

 

[Belz...]

You make the mistake of thinking that outcomes for the whole of America are even in their thinking.

Depends if the Putin puppet theory holds any water.