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how about put fetzer in the ring armed with a luggage bag of his choice vs a trained al qaeda terrorist armed with a box cutter ? i would pay to see that!
 
ref said:
What's the conclusion made out of them claiming ground effect?
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Fruther, has anyone in the “Truth Movement” actually presented any evidence to support the ground effect claim, or is Gravy just being terribly sporting and taking on the burden of proof regardless?
 
Swing Dangler said:
Certainly low in altitude, but can you make another video with the plane a few feet off the deck traveling at 530 mph? Now that would be some work!
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Great point. A plane going 530mph just a few feet off the deck would most certainly crash within a second or two.

Oh wait...

What point were you trying to make?
 
Swing Dangler said:
Great video! You just proved that fly-by's at air shows are near take off and landing speeds not at 530 mphs.
Certainly low in altitude, but can you make another video with the plane a few feet off the deck traveling at 530 mph? Now that would be some work!
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Are you still trying to make the argument that planes can't fly very fast and very low? Or that ground effect is stronger at higher speeds? How pathetic.
 
Ah, it's a pity that trolls can't get to airports. Better watch out, though, troll: the pilot who flies the fast one here once flew a 707 under the Tagus River Bridge!

Which one of these is much slower than the others? Hmm, such a perplexing question!

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Note that the last one is taken with a wide angle lens. Seriously though, is that landing speed?
 
Par said:
Fruther, has anyone in the “Truth Movement” actually presented any evidence to support the ground effect claim, or is Gravy just being terribly sporting and taking on the burden of proof regardless?
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For the reasons I listed in the OP, plus many others, ground effect is a completely bogus argument. I just like planes and thought these comparisons would be interesting.
 
Interesting to note that in the TAP Airbus fly-by none of the planes parked next to the runway were blown around. Didn't see any spectators getting knocked off their feet either. So what it is- lots of good CGI or maybe low flying planes don't always knock vehicles and people end over end?

BTW, my brother is a senior pilot for United. Perhaps some of the Truthers would want to ask him if it would have been possible for Flight 77 to hit the Pentagon.
 
Gravy said:
Don't expect an answer from Swing. He's busy discussing other low-flying aircraft at the city council meeting.

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one of the comments from that video:

"they do that **** here in NC. he complained too much about that sports tycoon's buissness, and thats what they did to coax him to shush. the local police department where OJ Simpson lives drops golf balls on his house every night from their heli."

lol.
 
[SIZE=-1]This is excellent proof that a Boeing 757 is perfectly capable of flying low to the ground, just like Flight 77 as it crashed into the Pentagon.

Excellent video! Well done!
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Kryptos said:
[SIZE=-1]This is excellent proof that a Boeing 757 is perfectly capable of flying low to the ground, just like Flight 77 as it crashed into the Pentagon.

Excellent video! Well done!
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Excellent proof?

Who are you going to believe?

The twoofers or your own lying eyes? (Er, I mean obviously fake video.) :p
 
Did they let any of the spectators or amateur pilots fly the planes at any of the shows? I mean anybody can do it right?
 
Kryptos said:
[SIZE=-1]This is excellent proof that a Boeing 757 is perfectly capable of flying low to the ground, just like Flight 77 as it crashed into the Pentagon.

Excellent video! Well done!
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i was just amazed when "professor" fetzer claimed an aircraft cannot crash at 500mph because of ground effect, on the history channel documentary he looked very uncomfortable and didn't seem to like what he was saying,i would like to know what his motives are, i doubt he believes any of his claims.
 
ZENSMACK89 said:
Did they let any of the spectators or amateur pilots fly the planes at any of the shows? I mean anybody can do it right?
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What, every spectator at an airshow has 200+ hours of simulator time? No wonder I've never been to one, they'd probably check my logbook at the gate and wouldn't let me in.

Dave
 
there goes zen, ignoring the fact that the hijackers had commercial pilots licenses.
 
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