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rwguinn said:
I have seen the shock from a supersonic F-104 kick up dust in a beautiful "V" pattern, I have see the B-52 fly-by (low, indeed) after a drop of the X-24 (B & C), low passes from the YF-12/SR-71, and a whole lot more.
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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate."

rwguinn said:
Preaching to the choir, me lad, preaching to the choir.
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For those of us who weren't there to see such things, it's still very interesting to read the stories.
 
I don't quite understand why this issue of airplanes not being able to fly low keeps being brought up. It's one of the most debunked idiotic claims of the TM. All of the combat aircraft in the USAF routinely flew at very low levels during the Cold War. This included ALL of the fighters and ALL of the bombers. Of course, the next comment by a "twoofer" is that "well those are military aircraft". So what? They are airplanes just like airliners and were not specifically designed to fly at low level, they just did it because of the threat. A commercial airliner would not be able to tolerate the turbulence over a long period of consistent low level flying as it would shorten the lifespan of the airframe, but they could certainly do it on the occasional basis. It is a DEAD HORSE.
 
Corsair 115 said:
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate."

For those of us who weren't there to see such things, it's still very interesting to read the stories.
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From somebody who lives on the Moon?

(Corsair 115 has never lied to me before, so of course I believe the published profile:D)

Ha! --I even was at the runway during the First Flight of the F-16 (was supposed to be a high-speed taxi test...)
 
Reheat said:
I don't quite understand why this issue of airplanes not being able to fly low keeps being brought up. It's one of the most debunked idiotic claims of the TM. All of the combat aircraft in the USAF routinely flew at very low levels during the Cold War. This included ALL of the fighters and ALL of the bombers. Of course, the next comment by a "twoofer" is that "well those are military aircraft". So what? They are airplanes just like airliners and were not specifically designed to fly at low level, they just did it because of the threat. A commercial airliner would not be able to tolerate the turbulence over a long period of consistent low level flying as it would shorten the lifespan of the airframe, but they could certainly do it on the occasional basis. It is a DEAD HORSE.
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But...but... (cue wailing voice mode) there's a speed limit!
Everybody admits it.
And you have to obey speed limits! If my car sees a 35 mph Speed limit sign, it can't go faster than that!
(hint to troofers--There is a reason people are called criminals. They tend not to obey the laws of mankind)
 
You know, I think you guys are right. Fake or not, the video is certainly the worst of his debunkings - nothing he says really nails it. I guess it was his success with the other videos that made me trust what's basically just his opinion and assertion on that particular one.

Sorry! It could be worse - I could be a truther...

What do you make of his comments such as the size and location of the shadow?
 
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Big Les said:
You know, I think you guys are right. Fake or not, the video is certainly the worst of his debunkings - nothing he says really nails it. I guess it was his success with the other videos that made me trust what's basically just his opinion and assertion on that particular one.

Sorry! It could be worse - I could be a truther...

What do you make of his comments such as the size and location of the shadow?
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Since the ground on which the shadow was cast was absolutely flat and level over the entire course of the "fly by", then he has a point...
 
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