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Ghislaine Maxwell

If Maxwell dies in jail before a trial, not a remote possibility with the Covid rates in our abysmal prisons, it's going to kick the Epstein conspiracies into top gear.
 
So Maxwell's lawyers asked for bail, which is not a surprise. In their filing they said that she was NOT a flight risk and indeed claimed that Maxwell has been in "regular contact" with federal prosecutors from the day following Epstein's arrest through her own arrest earlier this month.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/10/us/ghislaine-maxwell-bail-response/index.html

Maxwell's attorneys also preview legal arguments they plan to make with regard to the indictment, which center on a non-prosecution agreement Epstein signed with federal prosecutors in Miami in 2007 that appeared to immunize "any potential co-conspirators of Epstein."

When Epstein himself was indicted, New York federal prosecutors said they believed the Florida agreement didn't restrict their office from prosecuting him, but his lawyers argued otherwise. That dispute wasn't resolved because Epstein died in jail while awaiting trial.
 
carlitos said:
She may soon. Word is that Ghislane Maxwell "brokered the sale" of Melania Knauss to Donald Trump on behalf of Jeffery Epstein. That's the kind of secret that can get you killed. No idea how to link this - it's in a twitter video linked by rightwingwatch.

The guy expressing this opinion is Rick Wiles, who apparently has White House press credentials. :)
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And we all know how credible those Whitehouse press credentials are, afterall they don't hand them out to every conspiracy theory idiot..... just selected ones!
 
Surprised she didn't leg it to Israel like "Dame" Shirley Porter, she has the "Right of Return" and all that. Then again, maybe she considered it but figured it would be as good as admitting guilt.
 
IsThisTheLife said:
Surprised she didn't leg it to Israel like "Dame" Shirley Porter, she has the "Right of Return" and all that. Then again, maybe she considered it but figured it would be as good as admitting guilt.
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Not sure "a good as admitting guilt" matters in her context. The courts still have to get actual evidence and build an actual case. "She fled the country, therefore she's guilty" isn't actually a thing in criminal law. And it's not like she gives a fig for the court of public opinion. She's a true 1%-er. Those of her class peers who were going to cut her off for her sins have already done so. The others - her allies and co-conspirators (I hesitate to call them her friends) - don't care how it looks. They're going to expect her to use every dirty trick her set can afford, to get out of facing the commoners' music.
 
theprestige said:
Not sure "a good as admitting guilt" matters in her context. The courts still have to get actual evidence and build an actual case. "She fled the country, therefore she's guilty" isn't actually a thing in criminal law. And it's not like she gives a fig for the court of public opinion. She's a true 1%-er. Those of her class peers who were going to cut her off for her sins have already done so. The others - her allies and co-conspirators (I hesitate to call them her friends) - don't care how it looks. They're going to expect her to use every dirty trick her set can afford, to get out of facing the commoners' music.
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Indeed, it doesn't seem as if she would give a fig about whether she looks guilty or not especially to a public which already holds her in disesteem. Which leaves the possibility that she thinks there's a chance of getting off in court, or, of course, the possibility that she's just not very smart. Granted, I haven't followed her career much, but the little I've seen seems to require more chutzpah and round heels than brains.
 
I wonder where Prince Andrew fits in all of this? Could he be required to testify at her trial, should there be one?
 
Ian Osborne said:
I wonder where Prince Andrew fits in all of this? Could he be required to testify at her trial, should there be one?
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It seems unlikely to me. The prosecution would have no reason to call him as he’s just going to say he never saw anything untoward. And the defence seems like they are going more for a “technical” defence of being either time barred or covered by an immunity agreement.

But it would be hugely entertaining!
 
Matthew Best said:
It seems unlikely to me. The prosecution would have no reason to call him as he’s just going to say he never saw anything untoward. And the defence seems like they are going more for a “technical” defence of being either time barred or covered by an immunity agreement.

But it would be hugely entertaining!
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Eh ... keep your options open. They might call him to testify just so he can repeat his blithering idiot schtick to an American audience.

prince-andrew-bbc-interview-jeffrey-epstein-disaster(1percentersmag ...eh...townandcountrymag)
 
IsThisTheLife said:
Surprised she didn't leg it to Israel like "Dame" Shirley Porter, she has the "Right of Return" and all that. Then again, maybe she considered it but figured it would be as good as admitting guilt.
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I suspect if she had tried it she would have been rapidly extradited to the USA. She would be a public relations nightmare if accepted into in any country, as well as a political can of worms.
 
Giordano said:
I suspect if she had tried it she would have been rapidly extradited to the USA. She would be a public relations nightmare if accepted into in any country, as well as a political can of worms.
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Some countries won't extradite their own citizens. France is one of them. If she could have gotten to France, as the French-born daughter of a French mother she would likely have been safe.
 
Bob001 said:
Some countries won't extradite their own citizens. France is one of them. If she could have gotten to France, as the French-born daughter of a French mother she would likely have been safe.
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Safe from extradition maybe, but she could likely still have faced prosecution in France even if the crime didn't take place there.

Countries that do not extradite their citizens often permit other states to ask for their prosecution if the relevant criminal acts are illegal in both countries.
 
Arcade22 said:
Safe from extradition maybe, but she could likely still have faced prosecution in France even if the crime didn't take place there.

Countries that do not extradite their citizens often permit other states to ask for their prosecution if the relevant criminal acts are illegal in both countries.
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I'd like toi see a cite for that. I suppose it's conceivable, especially in the case of war crimes, but it's hard to imagine that it's routine. I don't see how someone could be prosecuted in France for crimes committed in New York and Florida. And what happens if the defendant is convicted? Does he go to a French jail? Does his home country pay for it? The whole point of prohibiting extradition is to protect a nation's citizens from foreign authority. I doubt they would circumvent it casually.
 
Bail denied. Looks like she'll spend a year in jail before trial.
Though the judge agreed with Maxwell's lawyers that her decision not flee the country while under criminal investigation for at least a year should be given "significant consideration," she ultimately rejected the proposed bail package.

The judge said she found it "practically impossible" to set financial conditions that could assure Maxwell's appearance in court, adding that "her recent conduct underscores her extraordinary capacity to avoid detection."

The judge scheduled Maxwell's trial to begin on July 12, 2021. Prosecutors said they expect the trial to take about three weeks.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...great/ar-BB16JlwQ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
 
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