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First GOP debate

Tricky said:
Interesting. Many pundits seem to think Bachmann was the clear winner in last night's debate. Better prepared. More at ease. How much of that is due to "the soft prejudice of low expectations" is unknown, but it is quite possible that this might shake things up.

I still think she'd be suicide for the GOP if she were nominated, but maybe it wouldn't be as grisly as I earlier thought.
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So, just so I'm clear, correct me if I'm wrong, the winner of last night's republican presidential debate still doesn't know if she'll be running for president or not?

Let me know if I've got that wrong somehow because right now I feel like a crazy person surrounded by calm, smiling faces. I'm a small step away from running screaming through the streets.
 
gnome said:
Oh, it's States Rights unless the State passes some liberal-socialist stuff. Does that help?
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It's kinda like how many conservatives are all about sticking to The Constitution, until an activist judge declares something they like to be unconstitutional.
 
PGH said:
So, just so I'm clear, correct me if I'm wrong, the winner of last night's republican presidential debate still doesn't know if she'll be running for president or not?

Let me know if I've got that wrong somehow because right now I feel like a crazy person surrounded by calm, smiling faces. I'm a small step away from running screaming through the streets.
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Bachman said she was going to file the paperwork today.
 
gnome said:
Oh, it's States Rights unless the State passes some liberal-socialist stuff. Does that help?
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It's much more broad than than. Anything the 'left' wants to do is bad, anything the 'right' wants to do is good. This overrides all subsequent arguments.
 
Spindrift said:
Bachman said she was going to file the paperwork today.
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Thanks. To you for providing the information. No thanks to my insane fellow citizens for voting this crazy woman into office in the first place.
 
Spindrift said:
It's much more broad than than. Anything the 'left' wants to do is bad, anything the 'right' wants to do is good. This overrides all subsequent arguments.
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But haven't you read? The left wants to destroy America. So of course what they want is bad. Basically any liberal voter = poor man's Dr. Doom.
 
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I actually thought Santorum and Gingrich did the best job. Pawlenty lost the race last night with his anti-social, scripted responses.
 
PGH said:
How on Earth is it that they're including Michelle Bachmann? She has not announced that she's running.

Are they just putting anyone up there now? Is it because they know nobody really cares?
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She announced she was running during the debate.
 
spaaron22 said:
I actually thought Santorum and Gingrich did the best job. Pawlenty lost the race last night with his anti-social, scripted responses.
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I disagree. I think Pawlenty lost the race last night with his virtual claim that Obama coined the term "Obamneycare" when confronted by King.
 
Just watched the second debate. Pretty much everyone's plan for everything was to cut taxes and gut Medicare and Social Security. Interestingly, they focused on capital gains, corporate, and repatriation taxes... Ah, supply side, did anyone ever miss you?

Bachman trying to take both sides on marriage was hilarious. But I am glad they asked the more important question, about a constitutional amendment, rather than just their marriage positions which we all already know.

But god, I had to skip every time Ron Paul blamed something on the monetary system. His brain is still lost in Austria somewhere.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Just watched the second debate. Pretty much everyone's plan for everything was to cut taxes and gut Medicare and Social Security. Interestingly, they focused on capital gains, corporate, and repatriation taxes... Ah, supply side, did anyone ever miss you?

Bachman trying to take both sides on marriage was hilarious. But I am glad they asked the more important question, about a constitutional amendment, rather than just their marriage positions which we all already know.

But god, I had to skip every time Ron Paul blamed something on the monetary system. His brain is still lost in Austria somewhere.
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I didn't watch the debate, but I'm happy to hear at least some politikers have the guts to say what must be said.

Social Security and Medicare must be trimmed, and Democrats know it as well as Republicans. Anyone without the guts or integrity to say so plainly, has no business haunting the White House or Congress.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/oact/trsum/index.html

"Projected long-run program costs for both Medicare and Social Security are not sustainable under currently scheduled financing, and will require legislative corrections if disruptive consequences for beneficiaries and taxpayers are to be avoided.

The financial challenges facing Social Security and Medicare should be addressed soon. If action is taken sooner rather than later, more options and more time will be available to phase in changes so that those affected can adequately prepare."

So saith the Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Health and Human Services, commissioner of Social Security, and trustees. And it's far past time the rest of you started getting a freaking clue.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
Watching it now. It seems to be a GOP candidate all you have to do is inject 'Big Government' 'Get the government out' 'culture of government knows best' into every other sentence.
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Sound bite catchphrases are the grease in the political wheels. Here in Ontario, with the provincial election set for October, you can find the phrase, "Ontario families" uttered by members of all three political parties in just about every other sentence. (Apparently, some consultant somewhere told them that phrase would resonate with the electorate.)
 
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