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First GOP debate

tyr_13 said:
There are conservatives that are any number of those things. Hell, there are conservatives that are all of those things. Now I understand and agree that some liberals like to tar all conservatives unfairly with a lot of those, just as some conservatives tar all liberals with any number of things.

However, I'm personally getting very tired of any specific accusation being dismissed simply because someone has claimed it in an overly broad fashion in the past. I'm also very tired of seeing liberals and conservatives defend people from these accusations when the accusation is well supported.

'There goes conservatives, accusing liberals of accusing so the conservatives don't look racists.' Just as easy to go round and round.

Just because they're a conservative doesn't mean they aren't racist, hateful, homophobic, bigoted, etc.
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Thank you for the well thought out response.

The other day I was arguing on the Yahoo comments section (hey what do you want from me? Sometimes you all are entirely too rational and reasonable to argue with.) A commenter was referring to Obama and his brilliant post read "Dump the Darkie!"

I replied and called him a racist. Shortly afterwards I was told by another poster that conservatives are tired of being labeled as racists, it's not true and I can take my bigotry somewhere else.

Imagine defending your party to the point where you completely ignore obvious and blatant racism and pretend it simply does not exist.

The saddest part? Dump the Darkie got 3 thumbs up, my post saying it was racist got 2 thumbs down and the poster who called me a bigot got a thumbs up.
 
JudeBrando said:
http://answerology.cosmopolitan.com...EO-of-Godfather-Pizza-so-are-they-racist.html

"After the debate, Frank Luntz did a focus group of about 40 Republicans - about half of them conservative, the rest moderate. They were almost all white - I think there was ONE black lady in the room.

When he asked how many of them think Cain won the debate - they all raised their hands. Only one of them had heard of Cain before - now all of them are enthused about him."


"If white conservatives and Tea Party members who would NEVER vote for Obama enthusiastically support a black man like Herman Cain - then how can you characterize them as racist?

After all, Herman Cain is, in many ways "more blacK" than Obama - Obama's really bi-racial, after all, and he went to Ivy League schools. Cain has a deep Southern accent and a very different biography.

Maybe it has nothing to do with race for most conservatives - they just don't like Obama's ideology, while they love Herman Cain's life story, his ideology, etc."



http://tweetbeat.com/events/17176-herman-cain-wins-fox-news-gop-presidential-debate?mqeve=fot
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Guilt ridden liberal Whites voted for Obama.
Guilt ridden conservative Whites are backing Cain.
It’s that simple.
 
The only reason a white would vote for a black guy is guilt?
 
I see the debate field is set for tomorrow. Conspicuous by his absence is Rick Perry. I would expect Perry will hold off announcing until most of the debates are done. He chickened out on debates in the Texas gubantorial race too.

I expect Romney will carry the day, but it will be interesting to see what some of these fringe-dwellers have to say.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
Check out the comments to this article about tonights debate

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electi...nyone-emerge-as-an-alternative-to-Mitt-Romney

Ron Paul's fan is trying despirately to gin up some interest. I wonder how many sock puppets he has?
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You do know that Ron Paul never loses a debate? At least according to any poll that his supporters can pack.

With Romney being the front runner right now, will the rest try to pile on early? It will be interesting if anyone tries some thinly veiled jibe at Mitt being a Mormon. (i.e. "real Christians" or some such nonsense.)
 
Are there political stundies?

From the above link:

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are the only true conservative candidates on the stage and the only ones with a real chance to beat Obama.
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The Pallinistas are joining in:
All the RINOs. wannabees, & also rans will soon be left scattered along the tracks, breathing the dust from the Supersonic Sarah Palin High-Speed Express bullet-train as it hurtles toward Washington, D.C. This train won't carry no losers; Won't carry none of them lamestream boozers, this train...
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Can't tell if that's a Poe or not.
 
How on Earth is it that they're including Michelle Bachmann? She has not announced that she's running.

Are they just putting anyone up there now? Is it because they know nobody really cares?
 
Interesting. Many pundits seem to think Bachmann was the clear winner in last night's debate. Better prepared. More at ease. How much of that is due to "the soft prejudice of low expectations" is unknown, but it is quite possible that this might shake things up.

I still think she'd be suicide for the GOP if she were nominated, but maybe it wouldn't be as grisly as I earlier thought.
 
Watching it now. It seems to be a GOP candidate all you have to do is inject 'Big Government' 'Get the government out' 'culture of government knows best' into every other sentence.
 
About gay marriage: "Consult the dictionary for what 'marriage' means, and go back to the Constitution."

DUDE! The Constitution says nothing about marriage! Those people made me want to scream.
 
Tricky said:
Interesting. Many pundits seem to think Bachmann was the clear winner in last night's debate. Better prepared. More at ease. How much of that is due to "the soft prejudice of low expectations" is unknown, but it is quite possible that this might shake things up.

I still think she'd be suicide for the GOP if she were nominated, but maybe it wouldn't be as grisly as I earlier thought.
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That's not surprising. She has a good presentation and is known for doing her preparation. I know I don't agree with what she's prepared but she is good at answering questions like the one's that stumped Palin.
 
I'm trying to work out how they reconcile their call for a constitutional ammendment declaring marriage as an act between a man and a woman and then rabbit on about how the federal Government should respect state rights when it comes to everything else.
 
Oh, it's States Rights unless the State passes some liberal-socialist stuff. Does that help?
 
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