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First GOP debate

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Just incase you wanted to see it, here it is:


Other parts in the uploader's profile.

For some reason I felt sorry for Tim Pawlenty. He cuts a very lonely figure, halfway between a mainstream and B-list candidate.
 
I caught some of it. My favorite of what I heard:

R. Santorum (paraphrase, in response to question about gay marriage): People should be free to be the way they want to be, and in order to have that freedom, we need strong family structures, and the government should foster that by not allowing gay marriage. In other words, you're free only because my religion provides your freedom, so snap back into line.
 
Not many of the supposed candidates were there, right?

ETA: It was just Ron Paul, Herman Cain, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum and Gary Johnson.
 
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I just happened to have surfed into the program and caught Juan asking Pawlenty about teaching religion as science in public schools.

Pawlenty appeared to be a little evasive and eventually proposed that if parents and local school authorities wanted to teach religious beliefs in science classes then that would be the way to go; or something like that.
 
Thanks for posting the link. I wanted to catch this trainwreck.

As a Pennsylvanian I apologize to the nation for Rick Santorum, cooler heads did eventually prevail and we voted him out.
 
I note that hopefuls who work for FOX weren't there. Did they decline, or did FOX keep them away?
 
I just happened to have surfed into the program and caught Juan asking Pawlenty about teaching religion as science in public schools.

Pawlenty appeared to be a little evasive and eventually proposed that if parents and local school authorities wanted to teach religious beliefs in science classes then that would be the way to go; or something like that.

No no no Pawlenty. The way to get out of such social conservative issues is very simple:

"It's a state issue"
"It's a state issue"
"It's a state issue"
 
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I watched some of the debate and followed along on a blog. Personally, thought Tim Pawlenty might have had the best showing, but from what I've read it seems many have different opinions about the debate. For example:

Did Santorum Win the Debate? No, But Neither Did Pawlenty

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2...m-win-the-debate-no-but-neither-did-pawlenty/

excerpt:

While most of us here at Contentions believed last night’s GOP presidential debate didn’t do any of the candidates much good, some of our brethren on the web are spreading encouragement to the hopefuls.

Over at RealClearPolitics, Scott Conroy gives a glowing review to Tim Pawlenty. He said the former Minnesota governor was “poised and well rehearsed as he spoke authoritatively on subjects.”

Disagreeing strongly with Conroy was the Washington Examiner’s Byron York, who termed Pawlenty’s performance “lackluster.” For him, part of the problem was the Pawlenty “Minnesota Nice” demeanor.

Surprisingly, both writers agreed about Rick Santorum. Both believed he did well for himself. Conroy gave high marks to Santorum for “a well-received first-debate performance, as he showed off his socially conservative bona fides.” York said Santorum had won the expectations game (could they have been lower?) and by making a strong impression on foreign policy issues.

Reviews like this (Santorum’s campaign was tweeting York’s article to the world this morning) do have the potential to breathe a little life in Santorum’s campaign but as our friend and former colleague Jennifer Rubin pointed out in the Washington Post, the former senator’s boast about beating Democratic incumbents fails to take into account the fact that a Democratic challenger beat him like a drum in his last race.
 
I caught some of it. My favorite of what I heard:

R. Santorum (paraphrase, in response to question about gay marriage): People should be free to be the way they want to be, and in order to have that freedom, we need strong family structures, and the government should foster that by not allowing gay marriage. In other words, you're free only because my religion provides your freedom, so snap back into line.

Republicans are weird like this. I can paraphrase your paraphrase of what he said. "People should be free to be the way they want to be....government should foster that by not allowing gay marriage."

Don't they even understand what a contradiction is?
 
Republicans are weird like this. I can paraphrase your paraphrase of what he said. "People should be free to be the way they want to be....government should foster that by not allowing gay marriage."

Don't they even understand what a contradiction is?

It's definitely doublespeak.
 
http://answerology.cosmopolitan.com...EO-of-Godfather-Pizza-so-are-they-racist.html

"After the debate, Frank Luntz did a focus group of about 40 Republicans - about half of them conservative, the rest moderate. They were almost all white - I think there was ONE black lady in the room.

When he asked how many of them think Cain won the debate - they all raised their hands. Only one of them had heard of Cain before - now all of them are enthused about him."


"If white conservatives and Tea Party members who would NEVER vote for Obama enthusiastically support a black man like Herman Cain - then how can you characterize them as racist?

After all, Herman Cain is, in many ways "more blacK" than Obama - Obama's really bi-racial, after all, and he went to Ivy League schools. Cain has a deep Southern accent and a very different biography.

Maybe it has nothing to do with race for most conservatives - they just don't like Obama's ideology, while they love Herman Cain's life story, his ideology, etc."



http://tweetbeat.com/events/17176-herman-cain-wins-fox-news-gop-presidential-debate?mqeve=fot
 
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Yeah but which African country is this Cain guy from? And how radical of a Muslim is he?

Why do you suppose it's an AP photo? I don't see anything on Politifact saying it is. (I don't see any AP credit.)

They've updated the page, but earlier they said "since AP didn't take any photos, here's a stick figure drawing we made of what the debate probably looked like."
 

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