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Fetzer on 'Hardfire'

Ron:

1. You agreed to have me on your show.
2. You changed your mind, and will not have me on the show.
3. You claim this change of mind was based on what you consider to be my scientific shortcomings.
4. Dr. Fetzer has the same scientific shortcomings, in your view.
5. Yet he is going on your show.

This is contradictory.

Dr. Fetzer is a Ph.D, the founder of the Scholars, and has appeared on several network TV programs discussing 9/11. I can claim none of these things. If your position is based on these differences, that is perfectly reasonable. Dr. Fetzer has the academic credentials, and I do not.

However, those are not the reasons you have given. Furthermore, nothing about my credentials changed between the time you agreed to have me on, and the time you changed your mind.

What did happen during that time, is that I made it known to you that I was bringing evidence, and I called you out on a few of your inane ramblings, including your "bowling ball through balsa wood" analogy. I also alerted you to Dr. Greening's criticisms of NIST on physorg, before he came on JREF.

None of this is sour grapes on my part. I am delighted to know Dr. Fetzer is coming on, I support him, Dr. Greening has confirmed he will still have a video discussion with me when I can line up a venue.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Ron:

1. You agreed to have me on your show.
2. You changed your mind, and will not have me on the show.
3. You claim this change of mind was based on what you consider to be my scientific shortcomings.
4. Dr. Fetzer has the same scientific shortcomings, in your view.
5. Yet he is going on your show.

This is contradictory.
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Don't use words you don't understand.



Dr. Fetzer is a Ph.D, the founder of the Scholars, and has appeared on several network TV programs discussing 9/11. I can claim none of these things. If your position is based on these differences, that is perfectly reasonable. Dr. Fetzer has the academic credentials, and I do not.
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Fetzer is a very prominent fantasist. He will present the case for his wrongheaded views and Mark will attempt to refute them.

You are just another crackpot, one of a distrubingly large group of people who hate reason and spout nonsense.

I learned my lesson with Les Jamieson.



However, those are not the reasons you have given. Furthermore, nothing about my credentials changed between the time you agreed to have me on, and the time you changed your mind.

What did happen during that time, is that I made it known to you that I was bringing evidence,
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You have demonstrated to the satisfaction of every sane person here that you have absolutely NO evidence.


and I called you out on a few of your inane ramblings, including your "bowling ball through balsa wood" analogy.
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You "called me out" on nothing. I said that if a bowling ball is suspended over a structure constructed of balsa wood, the interest lies solely in what caused the ball to fall, not what happened when it did. It was not intended as an exact analogy to the WTC and nobody thinks it was.


I also alerted you to Dr. Greening's criticisms of NIST on physorg, before he came on JREF.
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I was aware that Dr. Greening is not sold on the NIST Report's conclusions or methodology.



None of this is sour grapes on my part. I am delighted to know Dr. Fetzer is coming on, I support him, Dr. Greening has confirmed he will still have a video discussion with me when I can line up a venue.
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Your nose is growing.
 
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pomeroo said:
I just opened a PayPal account. How do we proceed?
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There is an email address associated with that PayPal account. Tell us what that email address is, and we'll shoot you some funds. If you'd rather not have that email address posted on a public forum, you can PM it to those of us who ask. Starting with me.
 
Ron, set up a paypal account with a web based email like hotmail,yahoo or something if you are concerned about posting your personal one here.
I would like to contribute to this.
You can pm me too.
 
This debate will be so entertaining, I will actually buy the DVD version if shown where to buy it afterward...awesome that this is coming together.

TAM:)
 
Gravy said:
Yes, I sent Ron an email that I'm all for it.
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Terrific! I can hardly wait :)

pomeroo said:
I just opened a PayPal account. How do we proceed?
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That has been answered above, but I just want to add that if you are are keeping the email address private, please PM me as well with the address and I'll click over to PayPal today and send some $.
 
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I don't have an awful lot of spare cash laying around, but I would find a way to contribute something if you could get Dr. Fetzer to suit up and demonstrate his Samsonite Counterterrorism Technique on camera...
 
To everyone who has offered to contribute to the Great Debate, I can't thank you enough. You guys are the best!

Give me a couple of days to resolve a few problems and I'll start e-mailing you privately.

Incidentally, I'm not breaking any rules here, am I?
 
One rule should be made before the debate. The moderator should instantly stop his attempts to run 10 issues knowing you can only address one or two. STOP HIM! That's a cheap debate tactic. Point out it's a cheap debate tactic if he tries it.

He will also be very forceful with his voice. He has a very strong presence. He's much like a preacher in his style of debate. Something he no doubt learned from his studies. He knows it's not what you say but how you say it. He knows if he sounds like he believes it, other will as well. Just remember, it's all synthetic.

Good luck, you're gonna need it, he lives for this stuff and is trained fro public speaking.
 
I think calliope circus music should be played whenever Fetzer is in the shot by himself.

No, I couldn't ever be an impartial moderator in such a debate.
 
Good luck today guys :)

I have no doubt that you'll tear Fetzer a new one. If you have trouble, I can provide a high-tech NWO laser beam to assist you in this matter.

Doc.
 
Anyone taking bets on "I dont see how 19 arabs led by a man in a cave, armed with boxcutters can take out the US" appearing sometime tonight?
 
If I was editing the debate for DVD I'd play the "Twilight Zone" music in the background every time Fetzer is speaking.

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It's already the 18th here... I can report, from the future, that nothing overly exciting happens regarding Fetzer today. I mean yesterday.

-Gumboot
 
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