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Fetzer on 'Hardfire'

Nice!
I think Fetzer's my favorite CTer. Anything with him in it is automatically golden.
He sweats, he blusters, he rants, he screeches like a girl when he gets really flustered...
Awesome.
 
Dr. Fetzer has informed me that he plans to bring his slideshow. Yes, this ought to be great. Not counting the LC clips on Amy Goodman, AFAIK, it will be the first time a television audience (albeit public access) will have the evidence actually presented to them. I hope Dr. Fetzer is allowed to speak, and that Mr. Wieck and company don't just resort to Bill O'Reilly tactics.

Yes, Ron, I know I caused you to change your mind about having me on Hardfire. Initially, you were fantasizing that I could be manipulated the way you did the LC boys. Once it became clear that I was intent on presenting visual evidence that would easily convince your audience that Dr. Greening's gravity collapse theory is divorced from reality, you cowardly backed out.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Dr. Fetzer has informed me that he plans to bring his slideshow. Yes, this ought to be great. Not counting the LC clips on Amy Goodman, AFAIK, it will be the first time a television audience (albeit public access) will have the evidence actually presented to them. I hope Dr. Fetzer is allowed to speak, and that Mr. Wieck and company don't just resort to Bill O'Reilly tactics.

Yes, Ron, I know I caused you to change your mind about having me on Hardfire. Initially, you were fantasizing that I could be manipulated the way you did the LC boys. Once it became clear that I was intent on presenting visual evidence that would easily convince your audience that Dr. Greening's gravity collapse theory is divorced from reality, you cowardly backed out.
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Got Rubble?
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Dr. Fetzer has informed me that he plans to bring his slideshow. .
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I want to see the body language and physical reaction of fetzer as each slide of his show is refuted, Therefore I would suggest a screen in screen display rather than going back and forth between head shots and slide show screen shots.
 
I got $20 that says you will be able to raise enough money by the deadline. (either way, you win)
 
I wonder which points he brings up.

His top 10 reasons the hijackers were not involved?
Pentagon C-130 theories?
Does he even dare to debate Mark about the WTC?

And I know Mark is tearing them all apart, no matter what he brings :)
 
I'm all for donating and I agree with LashL that PayPal would be a convenient way to collect said monies; it's simple to setup and if you've ever bought something off of Ebay (I would think many people here have), you're likely to have an active account.

TruthSeeker1234 said:
Dr. Fetzer has informed me that he plans to bring his slideshow. Yes, this ought to be great.
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Yes, it will be. Worth paying to see in fact.

I hope Fetzer doesn't bomb as dramatically as the LC boys; if he does, I think Ron should close out appropriately by calling: "Taxi for Fetzer!"
 
From what I've seen of Fetzer, his technique is to talk louder than his opponents, and not shut up to let them get a word in. My advice for Ron would be to have a mute button for Fetzer's mic within your reach - not to silence him, but to force him not to silence you.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Dr. Fetzer has informed me that he plans to bring his slideshow. Yes, this ought to be great. Not counting the LC clips on Amy Goodman, AFAIK, it will be the first time a television audience (albeit public access) will have the evidence actually presented to them. I hope Dr. Fetzer is allowed to speak, and that Mr. Wieck and company don't just resort to Bill O'Reilly tactics.
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I understand your concern. I am, after all, an unknown quantity here: I have never hosted debates with Les Jamieson or the Loose Change boys. It is possible that I will start shrieking on the air and bury my guest under a torrent of abuse.



Yes, Ron, I know I caused you to change your mind about having me on Hardfire. Initially, you were fantasizing that I could be manipulated the way you did the LC boys.
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Again, those problems with comprehension, Ace. Words, we must remind you, have meanings. When you write that I "manipulated" Avery and Bermas, people who don't know you will get the idea that I somehow "manipulated" them. If they watch the debates, they will wonder why you chose that curiously inappropriate word. Once they get a gander at you in action, they will wonder no more. Someone who babbles about "dustifying" steel is capable of using just about any word in any situation.



Once it became clear that I was intent on presenting visual evidence that would easily convince your audience that Dr. Greening's gravity collapse theory is divorced from reality, you cowardly backed out.
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You turned out to be a scientific illiterate, a total crackpot presenting utter nonsense. You were crushed without mercy, exposed as a know-nothing, by people who are themselves scientists, and you came away from the experience not an ounce wiser. People who are merely ignorant are not necessarily stupid. People who cannot learn, who are impervious to all information that fails to conform to their prejudices, by definition, are. All the detailed explanations spoon-fed to you by genuine experts failed to make the slightest dent in your absurd fantasies.
 
Yes, Ron, I know I caused you to change your mind about having me on Hardfire. Initially, you were fantasizing that I could be manipulated the way you did the LC boys. Once it became clear that I was intent on presenting visual evidence that would easily convince your audience that Dr. Greening's gravity collapse theory is divorced from reality, you cowardly backed out.
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Like a fly at a picnic, offering nothing and bothering everyone at the table.
 
Is TruthSeeker1234 Dr. "Pennies on a windowsill"?

Cuz' wasn't "dustification" of steel her theory? Or did TS1234 just borrow it?
 
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You turned out to be a scientific illiterate, a total crackpot presenting utter nonsense. You were crushed without mercy, exposed as a know-nothing, by people who are themselves scientists, and you came away from the experience not an ounce wiser. People who are merely ignorant are not necessarily stupid. People who cannot learn, who are impervious to all information that fails to conform to their prejudices, by definition, are. All the detailed explanations spoon-fed to you by genuine experts failed to make the slightest dent in your absurd fantasies.
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Yet Dr. Fetzer expresses the same "absurd fantasies". I'm very glad you're having him on, but could you please elucidate any differences between his views and my own that might support your evidently contradictory conclusions?

Of course I don't agree with your "experts". That is the whole premise of a scientific debate, Mr. Wieck - two people who disagree. I am perfectly literate in the principles of science, and you know it. I do not disagree with your "experts" about conservation of energy or any of the other relevant laws of physics. The disagreement is primarily one of observations. The scientific plausibility of the official story is based on complete fabrications of what was actually observed, and the visual record demonstrates this clearly. That is why I feel quite confident debunking Greening, e.g.

Yes, I'm aware that you had Les Jamieson and the LC boys on. AFAIK, none of them presented any visual evidence. Instead, you launched into the "debate" with Dylan and Jason by asking qustions about al Qaeda. This is what I mean by manipulation.

Can you please confirm that you have agreed to allow Dr. Fetzer to present visual evidence on Hardfire?

Thank You.
 
I think this debate is important enough that I will pony up whatever is necessary. Naturally, I, being cheap, hope that I don't have to foot the entire bill.
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Sorry, Ron, that was just my backwards way of saying, "I'll be happy to chip in if you come up short."
 
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Yet Dr. Fetzer expresses the same "absurd fantasies". I'm very glad you're having him on, but could you please elucidate any differences between his views and my own that might support your evidently contradictory conclusions?
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As far I know, you both believe very silly things that are contradicted by all available evidence.



Of course I don't agree with your "experts". That is the whole premise of a scientific debate, Mr. Wieck - two people who disagree. I am perfectly literate in the principles of science, and you know it.
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You have created the impression of someone who has a very poor grasp of scientific principles and, more importantly, of someone who is incapable of processing new information. Your garbled pseudo-science has been painstakingly dissected and refuted. You didn't notice.



I do not disagree with your "experts" about conservation of energy or any of the other relevant laws of physics. The disagreement is primarily one of observations. The scientific plausibility of the official story is based on complete fabrications of what was actually observed, and the visual record demonstrates this clearly. That is why I feel quite confident debunking Greening, e.g.
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You have wasted everyone's time with fanciful, imaginary concepts such as the "dustification" of steel at the WTC. You have ignored the reality of planes crashing into buildings, the testimony of thousands of eyewitnesses who observed those planes, and the existence of tons of recovered steel that required months to haul away. You live in a dream world.



Yes, I'm aware that you had Les Jamieson and the LC boys on. AFAIK, none of them presented any visual evidence.
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Wrong.



Instead, you launched into the "debate" with Dylan and Jason by asking qustions about al Qaeda. This is what I mean by manipulation.
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In other words, you don't use the word "manipulation" to mean "manipulation." A debate on the events of 9/11 will probably contain a few references to al Qaeda.


Can you please confirm that you have agreed to allow Dr. Fetzer to present visual evidence on Hardfire?
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It is not necessary for me to confirm anything to you. But, Jim Fetzer can use whatever visual evidence he thinks will enable him to make his case most effectively.


Thank You.
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We aims to please.
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Ron - if you can set up a method of payment, I will also chip in. Just let us know.
 
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