Feds raid and close down text-based porn site

[pgwenthold]

Apparently Amazon.com can still sell Lolita.

Somewhere in our book collection at home, we have a copy of a book called something like "Little Angels" or something similar by Anias Nin. It's a collection of erotic short stories. One is about a man who spends his days sitting on the bench across from the little girls school, fantasizing about, um, little girls.

In the end, my post about music was a little in jest. No, I don't think Gary Puckett would get arrested for Young Girl (but I don't think such a song would be released nor be nor as popular today), but more to the point, if that isn't going to be controlled, then neither should print, even if it is on the internet.

If you want to chase written references to child sex, then you should be after all such instances. I don't expect such consistancy out of our government.

 

[LeFevre]

shanek,

I was wondering where you'd gone hiding.

Tough luck for you. What will you do now?

I thought about reporting this post but didn't. Your history with Shane led me to think that your comment was made as an insult to Shane; I think you ment it as an insult but from someone else I could see how it could be a funny jab.

 

[CFLarsen]

I thought about reporting this post but didn't. Your history with Shane led me to think that your comment was made as an insult to Shane; I think you ment it as an insult but from someone else I could see how it could be a funny jab.

Heavens, no. I would never insult shanek.

 

[shemp]

Next they'll be shutting down oiled goat porn!

 

[Melendwyr]

Next they'll be shutting down oiled goat porn!

And then your last source of support will be eliminated. What a pity.

 

[shemp]

And then your last source of support will be eliminated. What a pity.

When oiled goat porn is outlawed, only outlaws will have oiled goat porn!

 

[The Fool]

Next they'll be shutting down oiled goat porn!

evidence?
Links?
Material discretely posted to my door in plain wrapping?

 

[TragicMonkey]

I'm beginning to worry about this text based porn crackdown. I just spent a whole month writing "Good Times" fanfic, and now I'm worried that if I post it, the feds will arrest me because of what Willona and Florida wind up doing to Bookman. Good times, indeed.

 

[SwissSkeptic]

Assuming that the reason for banning pictures of child pornography etc. is that viewing such pictures could encourage pedophiles to abuse children, I can see how persecuting text based child pornography makes sense from a dogmatic point of view.

 

[RSLancastr]

Assuming that the reason for banning pictures of child pornography etc. is that viewing such pictures could encourage pedophiles to abuse children, I can see how persecuting text based child pornography makes sense from a dogmatic point of view.

I think that you are assuming incorrectly. I think that the major reason such photographs are illegal is because actual children were involved. Not the same with written word.

 

[BLACK HAT]

Agents sought for porn squad
Barton Gellman
Washington Post
Sept. 21, 2005 12:00 AM

WASHINGTON - The FBI is joining the Bush administration's war on porn, and it's looking for a few good agents.

Last month, the bureau's Washington Field Office began recruiting for a new anti-obscenity squad. Attached to the job posting was a July 29 electronic communication from FBI headquarters to all 56 field offices, describing the initiative as "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and, by extension, of "the director," Robert Mueller III.

Mischievous commentary began propagating around the water coolers at
601 Fourth St. NW and its satellites, where the FBI's second-largest field office concentrates on national security, high-technology crimes and public corruption.

The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manufacturers and purveyors" of pornography - not the kind exploiting children, but the kind that depicts and is marketed to consenting adults.

"I guess this means we've won the war on terror," said one exasperated FBI agent, speaking on the condition of anonymity because poking fun at headquarters is not regarded as career-enhancing. "We must not need any more resources for espionage."

Among friends and trusted colleagues, an experienced national-security analyst said, "It's a running joke for us."

 

[SwissSkeptic]

I think that you are assuming incorrectly. I think that the major reason such photographs are illegal is because actual children were involved. Not the same with written word.

Ah, I almost thought so. My assumption was based on Swiss law and I'm glad to hear US law is different, because, honestly, I don't think ours makes a lot of sense.
So if my understanding is right, there isn't a law forbidding written pornography. In this case the main argument against the authorities' action would be nulla poena sine lege, or am I overlooking something? Does anyone think that the authorities will get away with this?

 

[Melendwyr]

Pretty much the only thing that could stop the Executive Branch from "enforcing" the law is the Supreme Court... which is soon to have two members personally chosen by Our Fearless Leader.

In short: yes, the authorities will get away with this.

 

[Manny]

Is there some independent evidence that this story is true? All I was able to find with a web search was a bunch of adult-industry news stories all of which used "Rosie's" uncorroborated story as the sole source. Any FBI news releases? Any reporting that uses another source at all?

 

[Beerina]

shanek,

I was wondering where you'd gone hiding.

Tough luck for you. What will you do now?

Are you happy somehow that the government is attempting to censor for things, that, evidently, you don't mind them censoring?

What happens when it's something you don't want censored?

And Shanek is correct -- written stories have always gotten thrown out of court. There was a case a number of years ago where violent rape stories that named a particular college student that was thrown out of court.

 

[shanek]

I'm beginning to worry about this text based porn crackdown. I just spent a whole month writing "Good Times" fanfic, and now I'm worried that if I post it, the feds will arrest me because of what Willona and Florida wind up doing to Bookman. Good times, indeed.

Personally, I think it's what you had Ned the Wino doing with a chicken that's the biggest risk...

 

[Melendwyr]

Is there some independent evidence that this story is true? All I was able to find with a web search was a bunch of adult-industry news stories all of which used "Rosie's" uncorroborated story as the sole source. Any FBI news releases? Any reporting that uses another source at all?

manny makes an excellent point. Can anyone confirm this story?

I'd do some browsing, but I'm at work at the moment.

 

[CFLarsen]

Are you happy somehow that the government is attempting to censor for things, that, evidently, you don't mind them censoring?

What happens when it's something you don't want censored?

And Shanek is correct -- written stories have always gotten thrown out of court. There was a case a number of years ago where violent rape stories that named a particular college student that was thrown out of court.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. So far, there has been no confirmation of this.

I'm fortunately not hampered by censorship, so I am free to search what I want. So far, I haven't been able to find anything else than manny has.

It is a "good story" (Porn, freedom of speech), and if true, should be picked up by the major news feeds.

 

[Yahweh]

Okay, weird stuff, but where does the government get off shutting people down for written fiction?

Does the fiction condone or promote pedophilia? (That could change everything)

 

[shanek]

Does the fiction condone or promote pedophilia? (That could change everything)

Not according to the Supreme Court. There has to be an actual child involved.