EVP anyone???

Re: scol experiments

scriptcoc said:
unexposed film in canisters sealed in a locked box were later developed and had on them writings from someone or something along with a blueprint for some type of two way communication device between us and those in the spirit world
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Yah, I know. They got all sorts of weird symbols on those films.

It's a bit like the other day, I held out a bunch of cards and asked someone to choose one. He could have picked any one he wanted. I told him not to let me see it. But, oddly, I was able to say exactly which card he had picked. Spooky eh?

And this one time, I saw a man actually CUT a woman in half. Except a few minutes later she was alright again.

Oh, by the way. How do we know that the device enables communication with the spirit world? Has it been examined by scientists? Where is the paper on the subject?

....so is it true I wonder...must not be that is all I am saying, if it were true, then we would all know about it by now...but isint' it true on the other hand that the learning curve for something drastically new is like 5 years for those of us over 30?
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But medium tricks are not drastically new. They were pretty much understood way back when the Fox sisters 'fessed up.
 
Re: All I am saying is this:

scriptcoc said:
I did get excited about my "little foray with EVP" but as for you several people dismissing it out of hand by saying that the magnetic tape recorder could pick up CB signals, radio transmissions and tv signals...that is just ignorant...magnetic tape has no connection to those signals....reallly it dosn't.
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A tape recorder is an electronic device, and can certainly be affected by electromagnetic interference (like radio waves).

Using an extermal microphone would probably make it easier to pick stuff up, as the cable could act like an antenna.
 
Entanglement Theory

Yes, I like to believe that I already know how to think for myself...and it has always been a personal cross to bear, for I don't easily join the roar of the croud, but maybe I am looking for something magical to fill a big void.....but even if I am...its all part of life and maybe I am not so wrong for seeking answers to where my child might be with a child like enthusiasm and open mindedness that will never "heal". The worst thing in the world would be closure...I want openness.....that is what I strive for above the novel and unusual, I don't need proof, but if its speaking directly to you and recorded on magnetic tape for everyone else to examine....I say go ahead and examine it, for what its worth and no matter how many times I find out that something is not proven I still remain curious.
 
To truthseeker

Gosh, I wasn't hurt...I literally ment what I wrote...(thats the trouble with writing, no speach inflection or facial cues to say....hey I really maybe don't know what to do here..rather than I am hurting....

Its been a very long time...over 7 years......but I still wonder, still miss her still care....I really don't understand how to say good bye forever...I dont know how to do that and if anyone has a good answer or suggestion I wouldn't even mind hearing it.....
it won't change the reality of things.....she iether is still in existence somewhere or somehow or she isn't and what ever anybody says can not change that....
 
Kathy,

I'm so sorry that you are hurting and I really do understand your wish to stay open to contact. My concern is that you not let your quest for contact add further to your hurt either emotionally (because isn't it another loss everytime you don't have contact?), socially (focussing on this rather than relationships with the living) or financially (paying for expensive equipment or EVP hunters or whatever).

But you're right, we all travel our own path and you need to make your own choices. I respect your right to grieve and live your life your way. I'm sorry I intruded and upset you. I really do wish you well. There was no mockery or "woo-woo" tone intended in my posts. I just feel for you because your posts spoke so clearly to me of your pain. Again, in all sincerity, I do wish you healing and peace.
 
The BoyPaj

Please explain,,,what is so depressing about suspending disbelief? Or remaining OPEN? It really isn't denile because I know that she is not here in the physical...I know that i can not do for her like when she was alive...I know this and I know that but religeon just confuses me..It just don'st make sense....not figurative sense or practical sense....so I find my solace with skeptics who at least know what they Don't believe in....
 
probably think....

Thank you for clarifying your concerns...I don't spend alot of money, or time, or anything like that but I could do more for others maybe that would help me out right about now....thanks again to all and I will leave this thread now for once and for all because I need to go do something busy for a while....and to BoyBoj.....you mentioned some stuff about card tricks and a magician sawing somone in half.....see that stuff bugs me, I can not enjoy watching that because I dont' understand it...I wish someone woudl take the time to explain how they do such things.....that would be truely satisfying to me....; )
 
Trying this once more...

One thing I'm curious about is the fact that all these clips are maybe a second or two long, and generally presented without context. Which is to say, without any recording or indication of what was said, or what questions were asked.

For those of you who have tried EVP, how much tape do you generally need to record to get one of these voices? Does it takes hours of recording to find a snippet of speech, or do you usually get something quickly?

Does anyone have a link where one could hear some longer passages? I'd be particularly interested in hearing a bit where a spirit/entity/what have you answers in response to a question.


Anyone? Bueler? Or is there an EVP forum where I could post and maybe get an answer?
 
Farmer Dave

I already wrote to you regarding this.....in a pm
but to reiterate.....you might try doing a google search and typing in EVP forum or go to the University of Arizona and look up professor Gary Swartz...he wrote a book called the afterlife experiements and maybe he has some experience with it...
but the google meta search engine is really quite easy to use, just type in anything even remotely associated with evp, like spirit recordings,,,or, white noise, or ghost recordings...try that...bye now kathy
 
Re: To truthseeker

scriptcoc said:
Gosh, I wasn't hurt...I literally ment what I wrote...(thats the trouble with writing, no speach inflection or facial cues to say....hey I really maybe don't know what to do here..rather than I am hurting....

Its been a very long time...over 7 years......but I still wonder, still miss her still care....I really don't understand how to say good bye forever...I dont know how to do that and if anyone has a good answer or suggestion I wouldn't even mind hearing it.....
it won't change the reality of things.....she iether is still in existence somewhere or somehow or she isn't and what ever anybody says can not change that....
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scriptcoc, I've just come to this thread and I want to say how sorry I am that you've lost your daughter. The grieving process is not about saying good-bye forever or forgetting her. You will always feel your loss and wish for her presence.

Grieving is an individual process and there's no right way to do it and no time limit on it either. I'd like to encourage you to find a group of others who have experienced loss to help you with your healing. Any hospice in your town will be have free groups and resources. If you're in a large enough town, there most likely will be a children's hospice. Just look in the phone book for hospices.

I hope that you don't feel that I'm intruding, but I have worked with parents before who have been able to move on and have found ways to honor the memories of their children. I wish you well with your journey.

(Thanks everyone. I don't mean to hijack the thread.)
 
Unfortunately, neither Gary Schwartz or the University of Arizona seem to have much credibility where this sort of research is concerned.

Schwartz doesn't feel the need to be reviewed, and his university doesn't seem to care.

Scriptcoc, you seem to be citing White Noise as a source. You are aware that it's a fictional movie, right?
 
Thanks, Kathy. I rarely check that email so I didn't get it right away. And thanks for the lesson on Google.

What I can't seem to find, and would like to, is to find a snippet in which I can hear someone asking a question and then a response. Also what I'm wondering, and nobody seems to clarify on the sites I've looked at, is if one has to pore through hours of tape looking for these, um, messages or if they're pretty clear and obvious.
 
To Boyboj

I am not useing the movie White Noise as a cite...I am saying if you type that into the google search engine you may come up with all sorts of websites having to do with white noise as a noun....which means static or group voices.....or even the noise emmitted from a fan would be called white noise...
 
Framer Dave

If you find anything like what you are looking for I would love to hear it myself and if you would please pm me to direct me to the site will you??
I just read something from the aaevp.com web page that suggests that a reason the reply from spirit is so short has to do with quantum physics available energy....all stuff well over my head....ghees....things are not so simple it would seem.......
but what I wonder is this...what if we found somebody like an electricla engineer or someone savey in the telecommunication world and asked them to explain away the phenomena called EVP...that would do it for me, I would give up on the whole idea if someone expert in the field of electromagnetics would just stand up and say...hey this is what is causeing these anomalies, so don't worry about it.....
 
Some Final thoughts

If a person recorded a relevent EVP answer in two to three words to a question posed by the Randi foundation.....while being observed by several people.... using a brand new cassett tape right out of the wrapper, recorded on a reel to reel provided by the Randi foundation and did this recording in a sound proof metal encased vault.......would this please the group???? Might this be proof enough to win the prize money??
Because if it would be enough then I will tell Martha that she might as well come foreward and try this.....
 
Heehee...Quantum physics, the good old standby. The things that happen at the quantum level are weird enough that they seem almost magic, and so few people really understand it. All of which makes for a great load of scientific-sounding rubbish that can be thrown around to explain pretty much any paranormal activity. Throw in a few mentions of vibrations, harmonics and higher or lower frequencies and you've got it made.

I really doubt we need an electrical engineer or physicist to explain EVP. It's simply noise that the human mind wnats to make sense of. That's it. Period.

Remember Occum's Razor please.

Just thought of a simple little experiment... Take a sampling of EVP recordings, say ten or so. Then get ten people and play each of the recordings back for each person individually and ask them to write down what they heard. It would be interesting to see the results.

Of course none of the subjects would know what they were "supposed" to hear.

Maybe then do it all over again, this time with some subtle suggestion of what they were meant to hear. Then see how the result changes.
 
Re: Some Final thoughts

scriptcoc said:
If a person recorded a relevent EVP answer in two to three words to a question posed by the Randi foundation.....while being observed by several people.... using a brand new cassett tape right out of the wrapper, recorded on a reel to reel provided by the Randi foundation and did this recording in a sound proof metal encased vault.......would this please the group???? Might this be proof enough to win the prize money??
Because if it would be enough then I will tell Martha that she might as well come foreward and try this.....
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Sounds as if it might,email Mr Randi and ask him.
 
The problem is grief can lead a person to all sorts of erroneous conclusions since it sort of muddies the rational mind. I remember 1976 being a hard year for my family since my Sister and Father died six months apart. We didn't have any EVPs from them, since, probably, no one had heard of them in those days, or they just weren't widely publicized.

One thing that did occur, however, that has been help up by my family as being "paranormal" is an event where my mother was searching in the basement for a ring my Sister used to own. After a while a clock went off in one of the boxes, a alarm clock that I used to own. My mother looked in that box and, viola, there was the ring. My mother said she couldn't have jostled the box since the floor was concrete, which is reasonable, though she could have knocked one box against the other causing the alarm to go off. Either that or the thing was just going to chime at that moment anyway. I very much doubt the spirit of my sister had any part in my Mother's discovery of the thing she was searching for.

Now it would have been great had my Sister been involved in that incident and it would sort of prove an interaction between us and the spirit world, but I'd need more proof than a clock going off. I hate debunking that story in front of my family, since it sort of makes them feel better, and that my Sister, to them, is in a better place. I think I have posed the rational explanations, but they just tell me they'd prefer to believe it was my sis, and perhaps i can't blame them, but I perfer to look upon the memories of my Sister, things that really happened, rather than some event that was misinterpreted as her ghost in my basement.

Like the basement thing, EVPs are just wishful thinking, and I think that woman who recorded the so called voices would be better off getting counselling than to rely on random noiseon a tape that could be anything.
 
Don't need a physicist aye

If you could have heard Cathy's voice like I heard it you may be shocked into beleif...it sounded southern, she is from gorgia, it was definately a young girl and she said, Cathy's Here.....and that came after a group of people sat in cathy's moms home and asked for her to come through....hmmmm so I think that would need some explaining away...
 
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