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Split Thread Epstein murdered

Venom said:
What advantage would there be to claiming that he was murdered rather than committed suicide? If you claim he was murdered the first thing the average observer thinks is he was silenced. The alternative, more likely narrative is going to flop.
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I don't mean to"claim" he was murdered--I mean 'prove' he was murdered. If in fact, as Maxwell seems to claim, he was just killed by your (in her words) average jail hit, there would be no real reason for authorities to cover it up, other than admitting they screwed up protecting him (oops...) The point is, Maxwell is obviously full of it. Her reasoning makes no sense.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Some might suggest that strong evidence he wasn't murdered is her an continued survival.
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Good point. The counter to that would have to be something along the lines of 'She probably isn't privy to *all* the crimes Epstein committed and *all* the connections to rich and powerful clients'.
It begs an interesting question, which I don't know the answer to. *If* she is aware of Trump having committed crimes, why not use that info to get all the same perks and/or pardon she is gonna get from Trump? Possible reasons are 1)She is afraid of being killed 2)She has no conscience and therefore feels consistently lying works in her favor, and/or 3)She has no way of proving the allegations and knows her testimony is worthless given her credibility issues.
All we know for sure is that her interview with Trump's attorney is worthless info.
 
4) You can give up information once, but you can hold it over peoples heads indefinately and by the time her appeal failed out Trump was on his way back in.
 
All we can glean from what she said is that it's very probably exactly what she thinks she needs to say to maximise her chance of getting out of jail.

Trump very clearly wants the story to go away, quite desperately so, and wields the magic pardoning sharpie of freedom, which he may wield for her if she exonerates him. It's not a matter of whether her testimony could prove anything in court of course, it's just about whether she smears him with a stench that won't wash off, which she might if she loses hope of gaining freedom. The more adamantly she whitewashes everyone right now, the less credible would be any future retraction, which is about the best result Trump can hope for.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
All we can glean from what she said is that it's very probably exactly what she thinks she needs to say to maximise her chance of getting out of jail.

Trump very clearly wants the story to go away, quite desperately so, and wields the magic pardoning sharpie of freedom, which he may wield for her if she exonerates him. It's not a matter of whether her testimony could prove anything in court of course, it's just about whether she smears him with a stench that won't wash off, which she might if she loses hope of gaining freedom. The more adamantly she whitewashes everyone right now, the less credible would be any future retraction, which is about the best result Trump can hope for.
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On the bright side, now it's a real conspiracy. So we got that going for us.
 
In a text message chain with an unidentified person in December 2018, that person wrote to Epstein, “It will all blow over! They’re really just trying to take down Trump and doing whatever they can do to do that ...!”

Epstein replied: “yes thx. it's wild. because I am the one able to take him down.”

CNBC

Certainly a potential motive existed for Trump.
 
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