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Dylan Avery

Is he referring to the NWO repeating the official story until it gets believed? Or him constantly repeating his crap on air?

My friend said he was referring to the latter. He got the impression that Jones doesn't believe anything he preaches and is content with it, though, because of the dollars he's pulling in.
 
My friend said he was referring to the latter. He got the impression that Jones doesn't believe anything he preaches and is content with it, though, because of the dollars he's pulling in.

I would definitely go with that.

Certainly seems that the selective few 'public' truthers are the ones with the 'brains' and who make the money and it's the trolling internet/youtube "you believe what the gubmint tells you" truther that spreads the word for nothing. Kinda ironic that
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I agree Steve, in fact this had crossed my mind several times in the past (prior to the slate interview) that Dylan never entirely or at all believed 9/11 was an inside job.

I first got the idea from watching the documentary BBC The Third Tower. They interview Dylan over the Loose Change claim that BBC reported building 7 collapsing 30 minutes before it did. They asked Dylan if he thinks there is anything suspicious about that; to which he replied "Not really, I didn't even want to put that in there in the first place, but ya know, I'm not the only one on the team". Got me thinking 'I wonder what other things Dylan didn't want to put in there.

Seems now he's just distancing himself from the rest of the truthers.. Meanwhile his ex-sidekick Bermas is still spreading lies at ground zero (did you see 911Kongen's vid where Jason is saying how the Seal Team 6 that killed Bin Laden died in a helicopter accident? lol oh my god why can he not help but tell bull **** to people?!).

This is 2012. Where have you been? None of this is new. DOD made it all up and ran with it. He knows it. We know it.

Seal team six members where indeed reported to have died in a helicopter crash but probably whilst transporting OBL back to his cave:rolleyes:
 
Think he ever got laid because of his involvement in the TM?

Would you with Judy Woods or Sofia Shaquat?

Think "FATAL ATTRACTION" .........
 
Looks like Jason is an author now:

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sorry... i found this from a thread several years ago.
 
Hey, that Wes Davis video ("Is there life after coffee") was filmed in my old stomping grounds: Encinitas, CA. I recognize the Coaster train & the Pannikin coffee shop.

Same town Dwain Deets lives in, last time I noticed.

I know some surfers up there. Have to see if there are any intersections.

Does anyone know if Davis is a truther?


tom
 
I found this little excerpt to be very enlightening.

"sometimes I wonder if I'm wrong, but then ..."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZjJQWNQZog&t=2m53s

Avery makes up crap.
Tells other people.
Credulous incompetents believe him.
Credulous incompetents write him letters of encouragement.

And in his mind, letters of encouragement from credulous incompetents confirms & substantiate his original crap.

Anyone see any problem with this?
 
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Similar to Dylan's fading view of 9/11, a friend of mine said he ran into Alex Jones in downtown Austin this week and he asked him a few questions about 9/11. Jones answered them, but responded with "if you repeat something enough, people will believe it. Oldest trick in the book" and then proceeded to pull out his wallet and quickly show it to my friend.



That, along with the Big Lie technique, were the main tools of Dr Goebbles. Nice company that Alex Jones keeps with his methods.
 
I agree Steve, in fact this had crossed my mind several times in the past (prior to the slate interview) that Dylan never entirely or at all believed 9/11 was an inside job.

I first got the idea from watching the documentary BBC The Third Tower. They interview Dylan over the Loose Change claim that BBC reported building 7 collapsing 30 minutes before it did. They asked Dylan if he thinks there is anything suspicious about that; to which he replied "Not really, I didn't even want to put that in there in the first place, but ya know, I'm not the only one on the team". Got me thinking 'I wonder what other things Dylan didn't want to put in there.

Seems now he's just distancing himself from the rest of the truthers.. Meanwhile his ex-sidekick Bermas is still spreading lies at ground zero (did you see 911Kongen's vid where Jason is saying how the Seal Team 6 that killed Bin Laden died in a helicopter accident? lol oh my god why can he not help but tell bull **** to people?!).

I disagree, I think that Dylan did honestly believe what he said and then his doubt just slowly devolved to LIHOPerism, to what we see now. Watch his debates with PM, he was fanatical.

I also think that the BBC thing was kind of refreshing of him. But that isn't the first time either him or Bermas have said something along those lines, I believe Dylan also thought the fake phone calls were kind of weak and Bermas thought the missile hitting the Pentagon idea was dumb (though he still wasn't sure what hit the Pentagon :rolleyes:).

I think both of those latter two claims are more of DRG's schtick and since he helped on the movies I'd imagine he wanted to keep them in. There's my CT, which is probably pretty shaky now that I see he was a "script consultant" and not a producer as I originally assumed. I guess we could just blame AJ because he probably wanted every crazy idea in there.
 
I disagree, I think that Dylan did honestly believe what he said and then his doubt just slowly devolved to LIHOPerism, to what we see now. Watch his debates with PM, he was fanatical.

Actually, I disagree. I think the PM debates were a real turning point for him. His body language really belies someone who is uncomfortable in his shell. He doesn't really participate much, as Bermas appears to do most of the talking. There are a number of instances where Dylan admits that portions of LC are "not the strongest evidence we have." In the debates with Mark Roberts, he's quick to acquiesce to Mark's points. To me, that speaks of a person who didn't expect the response to Loose Change that he got. I honestly believe he was expecting the video to get about 100,000 hits on YouTube. He never expected it to get mainstream media attention or to have to defend what was essentially a fluff piece in front of real experts. Dylan new there were flaws. He knew he didn't have any real evidence, or a real theory, or anything else for that matter.

Loose Change got more attention than it deserved because of the widespread anti-Bush sentiment that started up in late 2005. People who hated Bush for, in my opinion, entirely legitimate reasons were more inclined to believe the conspiracy nonsense. In truth, the video simply reinforced some already negative conceptions about Bush, even if it didn't win all that many converts. It was because of this that Loose Change became a thing.

I think Bermas was always the fanatic, and Dylan was more interested in the fame. There's no question to me that Dylan never believed the stuff, but since he was so interested in getting his name out there, he was willing to ride the conspiracy bandwagon. To his credit, it worked. He did enjoy a brief period of fame, and the early fame was from adoring fans and people too stupid to know better. When Popular Mechanics started looking into it, something changed. Dylan would now have to defend a wildly indefensible position against people who knew how absolutely full of crap he was.

Dylan had a tough career during 2006-2008. Some interviews were with adoring fans. Some debates were with Mark Roberts, which I imagine to be like pulling teeth (that's a compliment, Mark!). Dylan isn't a moron. Even he had to watch those interviews and debates and realize that the vast majority of people who saw them came away with the conclusion that Dylan is either a moron or a lying, cheating douchebag. Starting in 2009, Dylan quietly bows out. The Loose Change Forums go silent. The number of Truthers at GZ is now less than the number of Heidi Klums currently in my living room. Dylan doesn't speak at Truther conferences or give interviews anymore.

So, Dylan, if you're still out there, reading 9/11 CT stuff like you were back in the heyday, let's be clear about something:

You're still a douchebag. You took money from neo-Nazis to fund your film. You filled it with lies and false accusations and told people to hate Dr. Sunder and Dr. Greening and Dr. Gayle with no cause. If you truly don't believe what you preached, then you should at least apologize to them. If you made a mistake, then you should at least come clean to your adoring fans and the morons who are still donating money to the 9/11 CT "cause". That's what people who aren't douchebags would do. Would you like to become that kind of person?
 
So, Dylan, if you're still out there, reading 9/11 CT stuff like you were back in the heyday, let's be clear about something:

You're still a douchebag........


Ditto.

Besides all the distortions and lies he concocted against all the people you mention, I'd like to add his disgusting defamation of Sgt. Bernard Brown. That makes his behaviour just about unforgivable to me. As far as I am concerned this creature can never redeem himself for those words. EVER.


Compus
 
I think a pretty good career move for Avery would be to do a documentary about his time with the Truthers -- what it's like as an insider within that community, that sort of thing. Hell, if done right, even I would be interested in seeing that.
 

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