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grunion said:
Shame on whomever taught you history.

Columbus' log:


He offered to the Crowns of Europe, in exchange for financing his next expedition, "as much gold as they need, and as many slaves as they ask." In 1495 they rounded up 1500 Arawak men and put them in pens guarded by dogs, then loaded the 500 strongest into ships to Spain. 200 died en route and the remainder put up for sale by the archdeacon of the town. Columbus later wrote: "Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity go on sending all the slaves that can be sold."

When too many died in captivity, gold became the means for making good on his promises. The Arawaks throughout Hispaniola were given impossible quotas of gold they had to deliver and were maimed when they failed to meet the quotas. They fled, and were hunted and killed.

Howard Zinn:

This history has now been purged from most public school curricula in the United States.
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Thanks for putting the E in ISF.
 
grunion said:
Shame on whomever taught you history.

Columbus' log:


He offered to the Crowns of Europe, in exchange for financing his next expedition, "as much gold as they need, and as many slaves as they ask." In 1495 they rounded up 1500 Arawak men and put them in pens guarded by dogs, then loaded the 500 strongest into ships to Spain. 200 died en route and the remainder put up for sale by the archdeacon of the town. Columbus later wrote: "Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity go on sending all the slaves that can be sold."

When too many died in captivity, gold became the means for making good on his promises. The Arawaks throughout Hispaniola were given impossible quotas of gold they had to deliver and were maimed when they failed to meet the quotas. They fled, and were hunted and killed.

Howard Zinn:

This history has now been purged from most public school curricula in the United States.
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Hell, even Denis Prager admits to Columbus being a slaver.
 
Columbus never enslaved a single American.

Or anyone on the territory of the future USA, for that matter.
 
Hercules56 said:
Of course I know, and I assume YOU know. But if not, it's not my job to educate you.

However:

en.wikipedia.org

Social democracy - Wikipedia

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Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


You're welcome.
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It's not been a pillar of my argument, so it's not really my job. You brought it up.

I suspect you can't actually articulate the difference and you're just using 'socialism' as a scary word. You're in the wrong place for that to be fair.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled desperate, pointless distractions...
 
3point14 said:
It's not been a pillar of my argument, so it's not really my job. You brought it up.

I suspect you can't actually articulate the difference and you're just using 'socialism' as a scary word. You're in the wrong place for that to be fair...
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Mamdani is a current member of the DSA. Its not an insult to call him a Democratic Socialist.
 
Hercules56 said:
Columbus never enslaved a single American.

Or anyone on the territory of the future USA, for that matter.
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Sounds like you want to cleave to the nice bits while disowning the nasty bits. That seems a wee bit inconsistent.

If these horrible acts don't matter because they all happened somewhere else, why is there a statue to him in the USA at all?
 
Hercules56 said:
He's not a Social Democrat, he's a Socialist. Huge difference.
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Hercules56 said:
Mamdani is a current member of the DSA. Its not an insult to call him a Democratic Socialist.
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What kind of socialist is he then, since all these flavours make such a "huge difference"? He's certainly not a National Socialist. Those guys fought a really horrible war against some other guys who claimed they were the Socialists. So that one's easy.

You say he's a democratic socialist, yet not not a social democrat, but he is a socialist. Can you maybe unpick what it is about his politics that people in NY ought to be afraid of, other than they're not your politics?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Double-standard much?

He discovered the Western hemisphere. Hooray!
He tortured and enslaved people he found already living in the Western hemisphere. <shrug> Meh.
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Mamdani gives a middle finger to murderous Columbus, but PRAISES funders of Hamas.

Interesting...
 
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