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Crop Circle Question

CptColumbo

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I was just watching a repeat of the "Is It Real?" series on the National Geographic Channel (If you haven't seen it Randi is on it), and I have questions for the "believers." If the circles are communication from other intelligent beings, in space or otherwise, how are we supposed to respond and why haven't they figured out English by now? Otherwise they are not very good at this communication thing.

We at least transmit math into space (where it belongs), couldn't they be more obvious or do they need a Sagan to create a simple drawing for them.
 
It's because the cropular glyphs are intentionally obscure - only when we're enlightened enough to truly understand them, and our minds have opened enough to accept them, will communication be able to take place. It's the same as Arthur C. Clarke's obelisk on the Moon - humanity couldn't find it until they'd reached a certain level.

Plus, some people have already communicated with the crop circle makers, through 'channeling' and other means.

...is what a believer might say.
 
And of course, we all know that the technology required to bend wheat is far beyond anything that humans could come up with on their own, so even if you see people doing it, it's still really the aliens (mind control and all). I mean, seriously, we may have boards and rope, but being able to put them together to make a wheat stomper? Absolutly beyond our ability. There is no record anywhere of the development of this technology, it just appears out of the blue, ex hulio and stuff. Obviously alien intervention.

Or, could be that we captured alien boarb-and-rope technolgoy in the Rosswell crash, and the government is using these so-called "independent" wheat stompers to create secret deals with the aliens. Might explain some of our Presidents over the last few years...

:D
 
The crop circle BS aside, communication from and with an intelligent alien species is actually a very interesting problem. Researchers at SETI have used Information Theory to better differentiate between cosmic noise and an actual communication.

But the research has led to speculation that humans might not be the most ideal species on this planet with which an alien species would want to communicate, or even a species with which they could communicate beyond the realm of mathematics.

Of the limited number of species studied, human's communication level, particularly, the English language, falls well below that of humpback whales in complexity.

I can't remember exactly, but I think only the homing-related communications of humpback whales has been rated and not the societal communications. Or it could be the other way around. But the difference between humans and humpbacks is known to be fairly significant already.
 
How about this?

As you may know, a certain number of crop circles have been "debunked" and shown to be human made, but some have not, specifically, been attributed. Scoffing, closed minded skeptics such as those who inhabit this forum would suggest that the fact that a large percentage of those circles are human made and are otherwise indistinguishable from the yet untested might imply that they are all human made. This is of course scofftic nonsense. It simply proves that the aliens have succeeded in establishing a dialogue. Of course you have to be one of the elite illuminati to know what they're talking about. Watch your back.
 
How about this?

As you may know, a certain number of crop circles have been "debunked" and shown to be human made, but some have not, specifically, been attributed. Scoffing, closed minded skeptics such as those who inhabit this forum would suggest that the fact that a large percentage of those circles are human made and are otherwise indistinguishable from the yet untested might imply that they are all human made. This is of course scofftic nonsense. It simply proves that the aliens have succeeded in establishing a dialogue. Of course you have to be one of the elite illuminati to know what they're talking about. Watch your back.

So you're saying that since we humans mimic "real" crop circles with our fake ones, a dialog has been established?

Sort of the same type of dialog humans have with parrots?
 
I agree with Nucular because he has twinkly ear lobes.

Who was the poster some time back who posted a bitingly humorous (and devastating to believers) bit on crop circles actually being an attempt to communicate with the wheat itself?

Deserves a bump or re-posting or something.
 
I agree with Nucular because he has twinkly ear lobes.

Who was the poster some time back who posted a bitingly humorous (and devastating to believers) bit on crop circles actually being an attempt to communicate with the wheat itself?

Deserves a bump or re-posting or something.

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G, A, F, (octave lower) F, C.

Wait, I meant to say: B flat, C, A flat, (octave lower) A flat, E flat.
 
Found it. Can't find the original post, but it was nominated for a language award in June.

Originally posted by UrsulaV:

Maybe aliens have a different view of which end of the food chain is up, and they think that wheat/corn/etc are the dominant species, and we're just insignificant little symbiotes, like cleaner fish. After all, the crops have way bigger biomass than we do, and they cover all that space, and the little cleaner primates spend such energy taking care of them, and get up SO EARLY, just for the privilege of dining on their severed sex organs once a year. And the crops all grow in such nice straight lines. They're an organized vegetable race!
 
The crop circle BS aside, communication from and with an intelligent alien species is actually a very interesting problem.

It's been proved impossible. You'd need a flag the size of Ireland, which would be impossible to wave.
 
Actually, crop circles are simply mother Earth trying to communicate with those big silver birds (BSB's) that seem to have proliferated in the last 70 years. I don't know why anyone would believe the extra-terrestrial theory, there is NO evidence behind that rediculousness.

I can sense that the crop circles are on complimentary meridians with oil wells- wells must be like bee stings to Mom Nature. She is trying to tell those BSB's to stop sucking her blood, only to turn it into poisonous contrails. BSB's, you have been warned, those crop circles can also act as camoflage for big gun barrels- think of the potential of projectiles of puss from giant zits....Beware the White Heads of Death!!!! We've already seen what can happen when Mom gets mad about her critters wasting her valuable resources in wars- all those oil well fires during Iraq One...you thought they were set by mortals? HA! You haven't seen inflammation yet!
 
It's been proved impossible. You'd need a flag the size of Ireland, which would be impossible to wave.

Impossible? Are you sure?

I'm not disagreeing, I just don't know enough about it. It would seem highly improbable (extremely difficult) to me, but I don't know about impossible.
 
And for the love of god, give a young, hot Teri Garr some good lovin'.
 
The crop circle BS aside, communication from and with an intelligent alien species is actually a very interesting problem. Researchers at SETI have used Information Theory to better differentiate between cosmic noise and an actual communication.

But the research has led to speculation that humans might not be the most ideal species on this planet with which an alien species would want to communicate, or even a species with which they could communicate beyond the realm of mathematics.

Of the limited number of species studied, human's communication level, particularly, the English language, falls well below that of humpback whales in complexity.

I can't remember exactly, but I think only the homing-related communications of humpback whales has been rated and not the societal communications. Or it could be the other way around. But the difference between humans and humpbacks is known to be fairly significant already.

By "complexity" what do you mean? Complexity of sounds or complexity of meaning? I'm assuming you mean the former as the latter would imply that humpbacks are more intelligent than humans, which I doubt.

It's fair to say then, that English has greater complexity of meaning, yet is not as complex to learn as Humpbacchaen?

I think the aliens would prefer a TEFL teacher to a THFL.
 

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