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Crop circle debunking help needed

Stray Cat said:
Really?

What exactly do you expect when I say I'll show you how to plot apparent complex geometry?

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Exactly what are you expecting here?
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The plotting and execution of complex geometry at night without errors,or getting caught, several times, several years, in the same small area of planet earth.
 
Robrob said:
I've seen this before. Wingnut makes claim he can't defend. Everyone else points out his flawed conclusion. Wingnut gets agitated and begins to blame the debunkers. Shortly thereafter, wingnut begins stream of consciousness drivel, soon to be followed by insults and profanity.

The end result is banning.
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So the only thing left for you to do is curse, and I wouldn't be bothered with you anymore.
 
Would it be lazy of me to ask what year England took guns out of the citizens hands? Maybe there's a correlation between the simple circles and the timetable of the complexity of the formations. But the genius I am, I'd just say the aliens felt more compelled to the advancements this particular part of humanity has made by disarming themselves. Why not then make formations in China though? Are the chinese short on mathematicians? Or rice?
 
chuck4842 said:
Would it be lazy of me to ask what year England took guns out of the citizens hands? Maybe there's a correlation between the simple circles and the timetable of the complexity of the formations. But the genius I am, I'd just say the aliens felt more compelled to the advancements this particular part of humanity has made by disarming themselves. Why not then make formations in China though? Are the chinese short on mathematicians? Or rice?
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I have in my possession a number of legal firearms. In my wildest imagination I can't envision a scenario in which I might use them against someone rearranging the flora upon my property. Genius you might be but I posit this correlation you seek is unrobust theory.
 
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Akhenaten said:
Why are you here, chuck? It's becoming increasingly obvious that you have no interest in the topic.
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I'm interested and lazy. How could you say that? Oh, Australia still has guns. Not for long, citizens like you will hand them over like the coop sheep you are.
 
Resume said:
I have in my possession a number of legal firearms. In my wildest imagination I can't envision a scenario in which I might use them against someone rearranging the flora upon my property. Genius you might be but I posit this correlation you seek is unrobust theory.
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I wouldn't kill anyone either, but you gotta admit, for the culprit, the thought is a deterrent.
 
chuck4842 said:
Would it be lazy of me to ask what year England took guns out of the citizens hands? Maybe there's a correlation between the simple circles and the timetable of the complexity of the formations. But the genius I am, I'd just say the aliens felt more compelled to the advancements this particular part of humanity has made by disarming themselves.
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There is one section of the British population that is much more likely to have firearms than any other. They use them for controlling vermin and other threats to their livestock and crops. Can you guess who they are?
 
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23_Tauri said:
Pray tell us, chuck, when were you last in Wiltshire in the summertime, out doing a night watch on Knap Hill, or gently tootling back to your tent from the pub at one in the morning?
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It might be worth pointing out that nights are quite short here during the summer. In June it's starting to get light as early as 4 a.m. Plenty of time to put the finishing touches to your crop circle in full daylight before even the earliest-rising farmer is out and about.
 
chuck4842 said:
I'm guessing that strange environmental factors found inside a formation is of no interest.
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it's of interest if you can show a connection between the two. Otherwise it's a thing happening at the same time as another thing. You don't even have correlation here, much less causation.
 
chuck4842 said:
The plotting and execution of complex geometry at night without errors,or getting caught, several times, several years, in the same small area of planet earth.
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my god, I can't wait until you find out that graffiti exists. The plotting and execution of complex artwork at night, without errors, on the walls of busy streets? You are going to flip your lid.
 
I'm no longer sure what point Chuck is trying to make. He's accepted that it's possible for humans to make crop circles, so... what's he even arguing about now?
 
chuck4842 said:
Would it be lazy of me to ask what year England took guns out of the citizens hands? Maybe there's a correlation between the simple circles and the timetable of the complexity of the formations. But the genius I am, I'd just say the aliens felt more compelled to the advancements this particular part of humanity has made by disarming themselves. Why not then make formations in China though? Are the chinese short on mathematicians? Or rice?
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Yes chuck, why are you here? You don't seem interested in learning anything about crop circles, only maintain your stance that it's not possible for all the crop circles in England to be made by people because:

1. England is simultaneoulsy both pitch black and very lit up at night, allowing circlemakers to not see what they're doing, and for farmers to be able to keep watch over the full extent of their fields whilst walking the dog at two o'clock in the morning;

2. England is very small but at the same time quite big as it has remote dark corners where anything can happen;

3. On a small budget you could surveil all the fields in England and poke yer gurrn in the face of those pot-smoking hoodlums dirtyin' up them fields.

By the way, if you want to discuss gun control, try Social Issues and Current Events. There's usually a thread running on that very subject down there. You might even meet some like minded souls.

We've never been big on gun ownership over here, so they've never been "taken out of our hands" so to speak. They were never really there in the first place. It's not in our constitution to own guns (yes, you are supposed to be able to read that two ways). In the UK you can own some types of firearm, if you have a licence, and as Zooterkin pointed out there is one group of people who more often than the general population will have a gun in the house.

Now, back to crop circles.
 
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chuck4842 said:
The plotting and execution of complex geometry at night without errors,or getting caught, several times, several years, in the same small area of planet earth.
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If you look at any crop circle website, you'll see this already happens and has been happening on a regular basis for about 30 odd years.

Though I don't know exactly what this has to do with me doing some computer diagrams to help explain how easy the geometry is to plot out.
It's a bit like suggesting that someone isn't teaching nuclear physics properly unless they set off an atom bomb in the classroom. Or someone learning Architecture complaining that all they ever get to do is draw small diagrams on computers instead of building massive buildings with diggers and everything.
 
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