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Crop circle debunking help needed

chuck4842 said:
Yet we have here a crime of trespassing which includes a destruction of a manufactured product for the sake of public attention.
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So now you think you can speculate on the motives of circlemakers?

If they wanted "attention" they would choose a less anonymous hobby.
 
chuck4842 said:
You couldn't find it with the help of a computer and God knows what else.
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Chuck you're really not doing yourself any favours here. I'm trying to help and I'm probably the only one here with the knowledge and experience to answer your questions.

Start to behave like a typical "chip on your shoulder" Woo and you'll find I'm much less accommodating.
 
chuck4842 said:
Vision my dear Watson, vision is important while creating a complex formation in a farmers field at night while he sleepeth.
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Have you ever been outside at night, chuck? What has the proximity of the copse to the field got to do with one's ability to see at night?

Oh, here's an aerial of the copse and surrounding fields, to help you get your bearings. I believe (although SC can probably have to confirm whether I'm correct) that the 1998 cc was in the field north-west of the copse. And that line running east-west above the field? That's the road between Alton Barnes and Wilcot, so it's not as remote a location as you might think.

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chuck4842 said:
I stick by that statement, I didn't say however that there's not a dark place in all of England. So what's your point?
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No, what's your point? If there's "not dark place in all of England" then there's enough light at night to make a crop circle, yes?
 
23_Tauri said:
Have you ever been outside at night, chuck? What has the proximity of the copse to the field got to do with one's ability to see at night?

Oh, here's an aerial of the copse and surrounding fields, to help you get your bearings. I believe (although SC can probably have to confirm whether I'm correct) that the 1998 cc was in the field north-west of the copse. And that line running east-west above the field? That's the road between Alton Barnes and Wilcot, so it's not as remote a location as you might think.

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No, what's your point? If there's "not dark place in all of England" then there's enough light at night to make a crop circle, yes?
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no, not enough light. next question?
 
23_Tauri said:
I believe (although SC can probably have to confirm whether I'm correct) that the 1998 cc was in the field north-west of the copse. And that line running east-west above the field? That's the road between Alton Barnes and Wilcot, so it's not as remote a location as you might think.
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Indeed, it's less than 3 minutes walk away from the Mecca of crop circle land; Eastfield (which you can see the very bottom of as well as the silage pit in the photo). Right in the middle of the hottest hot spot for crop circles.
 
chuck4842 said:
Akhenaten said:
What exactly do you think wheat fields are made out of?


I thought you said we you had ruled out everything else.
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No, you did.
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You're not very good at this, are you?


chuck4842 said:
Akhenaten said:
Which is relevant because ______________________ ?
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I thought we ruled out everybody else. Are you suggesting the farmers did it?
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Whose words do you think those are that I've embiggened for you, chuck?
 
chuck4842 said:
no, not enough light. next question?
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And on the basis of what evidence do you reach this conclusion?

Pray tell us, chuck, when were you last in Wiltshire in the summertime, out doing a night watch on Knap Hill, or gently tootling back to your tent from the pub at one in the morning?
 
Stray Cat said:
Indeed, it's less than 3 minutes walk away from the Mecca of crop circle land; Eastfield (which you can see the very bottom of as well as the silage pit in the photo). Right in the middle of the hottest hot spot for crop circles.
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I don't know how to do labels in GoogleEarth, :blush: otherwise I'd have put some on.
 
I know I may appear as a God to y'all, but I really aint. Can I please handle one questioner at a time? The job aint easy. All stray cats gotta do is show us how to draw a formation on a computer, Tauri combines previous entries of the thread as if we're on the same page, then Akhenaten is such a genius he pretends to be oblivious to any of my points. It's an overwhelming responsibility to say the least. Maybe we should start at one fact that's slightly curious until solved, instead of bombarding the student (that's me) with limitless conjecture?
 
for example- "See Spot run." with my 20/40 vision or a radar gun made in China? Is Spot running or trotting? If he is running to wit we haven't agreed to yet, what the heck for? To confuse somebody is chickencrap that anyone can do , and far below "deduction" or the "scientific method".
 
chuck4842 said:
All stray cats gotta do is show us how to draw a formation on a computer,
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Really?

What exactly do you expect when I say I'll show you how to plot apparent complex geometry?

There are of course plenty of night time (some time lapse) examples of crop circles being made. You have no doubt seen some (if not all) of them on YouTube and you hand wave them away the same way you hand wave away my diagrams. There are plenty of examples of complex commissioned circles, which you also hand wave away with completely subjective bias claiming they aren't very good.

Exactly what are you expecting here?
 
chuck4842 said:
for example- "See Spot run." with my 20/40 vision or a radar gun made in China? Is Spot running or trotting? If he is running to wit we haven't agreed to yet, what the heck for? To confuse somebody is chickencrap that anyone can do , and far below "deduction" or the "scientific method".
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I've seen this before. Wingnut makes claim he can't defend. Everyone else points out his flawed conclusion. Wingnut gets agitated and begins to blame the debunkers. Shortly thereafter, wingnut begins stream of consciousness drivel, soon to be followed by insults and profanity.

The end result is banning.
 
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