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Consciousness question

Iacchus said:
Then who is it that is referring to Bodhi Dharma Zen then? Jesus Christ? ... Or, the Buddha?
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If you are unable to understand, whats the point in trying? Seriously, I told you the path lots of posts ago. If you get ever serious about this matters, instead of play your usual games, go back to those posts and meditate on them.
 
SuperCoolGuy said:
Then get off the starting line and go!
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Yes, but where shall I go? No matter where I go, I'm always here. :D

Excerpt from Joseph Campbell's, The Power of Myth ...

The vision of Black Elk ...

He says, "I saw myself on the central mountain of the world, the highest place, and I had a vision because I was seeing in the sacred manner of the world." And the sacred central mountain was Harney Peak in South Dakota. And then he says, "But the central mountain is everywhere."

That is a real mythological realization. It distinguishes between the local cult image, Harney Peak, and its connotation as the center of the world. The center of the world is the axis mundi, the central point, the pole around which all revolves. The central point of the world is the point where stillness and movement are together. Movement is time, but stillness is eternity. Realizing how this moment of your life is actually a moment of eternity, and experiencing the eternal aspect of what you're doing in the temporal experience -- this is the mythological experience.
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Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
If you are unable to understand, whats the point in trying? Seriously, I told you the path lots of posts ago. If you get ever serious about this matters, instead of play your usual games, go back to those posts and meditate on them.
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I-am-me. Iamme? I am that I am. What else do you want to know?
 
Iacchus said:
Yes, but where shall I go? No matter where I go, I'm always here.
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Iacchus. PAY ATTENTION, this is the last time I will tell you this:

No matter how many times you recite the words, if you are unable to utter them from the right place, you are wasting computer cycles.

Get real, for once in your life cease to waste your time.
 
Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
If you are unable to understand, whats the point in trying? Seriously, I told you the path lots of posts ago. If you get ever serious about this matters, instead of play your usual games, go back to those posts and meditate on them.
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And what is it that the Taoists say, "One mountain, many paths?" I agree ... even if it had Jesus Christ's name inscribed up on top. ;)
 
Iacchus said:
My real name is Dennis by the way.
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Dear Dennis! Who is Dennis aka Iacchus? WHO is behind the body and the mind watching everything? What are you beyond YOUR CONCEPTS AND IDEAS???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
Iacchus. PAY ATTENTION, this is the last time I will tell you this:

No matter how many times you recite the words, if you are unable to utter them from the right place, you are wasting computer cycles.

Get real, for once in your life cease to waste your time.
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No need to worry, for one who has no soul.
 
Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
Dear Dennis! Who is Dennis aka Iacchus? WHO is behind the body and the mind watching everything? What are you beyond YOUR CONCEPTS AND IDEAS???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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"I" am not the Creator, although very much like Him.
 
SuperCoolGuy said:
In current computing, a bit (datum) is stored in a single transistor. Upon the onset of quantum computing (50-100 years?), we'll be able to store a bit (datum) in a single electron spin state. So, there will be a time when energy states translates into data.
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So I was using the wrong terminology all along. Thanks! And yeah, I'm afraid I drifted off of what computers can use as data currently and got caught up in exactly what could be called, at least in theory, a bit, as far as it was possible to take it at least.

But no matter, the topic has shifted with Iaachus never answering my question or providing any reason to think that a conciousness is anything more than a consequence of the reactions going on in our brains. He seems intent now on quoting people and misinterpretting things I don't know much of anything about at this point. Rather disappointing really. I came here for an argument, but this is abuse!
 
Dark Jaguar said:
But no matter, the topic has shifted with Iaachus never answering my question or providing any reason to think that a conciousness is anything more than a consequence of the reactions going on in our brains. He seems intent now on quoting people and misinterpretting things I don't know much of anything about at this point. Rather disappointing really. I came here for an argument, but this is abuse!
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There you have it! He likes to tell you things you already know, but in words you can't understand; or in over used expressions that border on the banal. He gets some sort of pleasure from it.
 
Dark Jaguar said:
But no matter, the topic has shifted with Iaachus never answering my question or providing any reason to think that a conciousness is anything more than a consequence of the reactions going on in our brains.
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Have you read the book? Chapters 5, 8 and 9 are all quite enlightening.
 
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