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Consciousness question

SuperCoolGuy said:
Yes

Using Socrates to champion and validate ignorance is not cool.

Interestingly, I believe in God as well. But I refuse to use a superficial, glossed interpretation of reality to suit my personal spiritual fix.

Humanity makes progress when it recognizes ignorance and does something to fix it, not glorify it.
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"Follow your bliss."
 
SuperCoolGuy said:
It is becoming abundantly obvious to me that there are plenty of sources out there that mirror you line of thinking, Iacchus.

The problem with these sources, in essence, lies in the misinterpretation of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, misunderstanding of the EPR experiment, and lack of understanding the physiology and neuroscience of conciousness in the brain.

In a nutshell, this line of thinking puts God/conciousness in the statistical probalities of localities in subatomic particles (vibrations), using the EPR experiment to imply "information" as something that transcends space/time, linking conciousness and information (or data) together, and making conciousness that which unifies the universe while being something not of this universe.

How am I doing so far?
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Calling me ignorant is the best you can do, huh?

I bring up points, you run to metaphors. We address metaphors, you use more metaphors.

I go and find sources that mirror your views, you barely substantiate their existence.

I address serious flaws underpinning these types of sources, you yawn and throw Socrates at me.

At the first sign of trouble, you run. And the best advice you can give me is "Follow your bliss"?

Thanks for a major pile of nothing.
 
SuperCoolGuy said:
You are not even serious anymore. It's a big game for you, isn't it.
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It follows his pattern. Once he is painted into a corner and his views are soundly thrashed, he goes into this routine. We can also expect him to move everything to a new thread and start again as if this one had never happened.
 
Iacchus said:
Actually, I believe this was in response to your calling me ignorant. Hmm ... Maybe I got the wrong idea? :confused:
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I'm the one who's trying to see your side and addressing why I disagree. When I don't get the same consideration, I recognize it and call people out on it.

You called yourself ignorant:

SuperCoolGuy said:
It is becoming abundantly obvious to me that there are plenty of sources out there that mirror you line of thinking, Iacchus.

The problem with these sources, in essence, lies in the misinterpretation of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, misunderstanding of the EPR experiment, and lack of understanding the physiology and neuroscience of conciousness in the brain.
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Your response?

Iacchus said:
I know that I don't know, and of that I'm certain. Or, was it Socrates that said that?
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Follow Your Bliss ...

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Yet it is important to note that following one's bliss, as Campbell saw it, isn't merely a matter of doing whatever you like, and certainly not doing simply as you are told. It is a matter of identifying that pursuit which you are truly passionate about and attempting to give yourself absolutely to it. In so doing, you will find your fullest potential and serve your community to the greatest possible extent.
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Iacchus said:
From the link above ...
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By that reasoning, Iacchus, if you truly are interested in consciousness, you would be simply devouring the various articles, videos, books, and other resources that people have pointed out to you. Why do you not? Do you think Campbell had it wrong? Why quote him, then?
 
Iacchus said:
What makes you so sure? ... Oh, I forgot, you don't exist ... Carry on!
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LOL, thats a rethorical question, isnt it? We ALL agree in that you are simply ignorant (and obtuse) ;)

How does a computer literate knows that some individual doesn't know anything about computers? Well, a start would be that he is trying to turn on the computer using the mouse buttons as a pedal...

OH! and in the end, I have to recon that you said something true! BRAVO!

Bodhi Dharma Zen doesn't exists! its a mere collection of memories in this body.
 
Mercutio said:
By that reasoning, Iacchus, if you truly are interested in consciousness, you would be simply devouring the various articles, videos, books, and other resources that people have pointed out to you. Why do you not? Do you think Campbell had it wrong? Why quote him, then?
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There was in fact a point when I did do all of these things.
 
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