Children seeing auras

carla said:
Try asking your children or friends if they can see the colours around other people, and work from there.


Ha! I'm imagining you don't have children! I have two, aged 2 and 6. I'm pretty sure that both would answer yes to that question, but they would probably also answer yes to the question "Can you see that leprachaun on the mantelpiece?". Leading questions work especially well on children. Next time you're with a child under 7, as him or her "How is your tummy ache?". I bet you they won't say "I haven't got a tummy ache"!
 
CFLarsen said:
carla,

If we took 20 screens and put 10 people behind 10 of the screens, do you know of any child that can determine behind which screens there are people and where there are not?

It maybe could be done, by hearing them breathing or something like that.
 
Abdul Alhazred said:


It maybe could be done, by hearing them breathing or something like that.
That poses an interesting question. From what distance is the aura detectible? Only one meter? 10 meters? You may be able to stand a far enough distance to avoid hearing them breathe, unless they cough, sneeze, or something.
 
Irish Murdoch said:
Ha! I'm imagining you don't have children! I have two, aged 2 and 6. I'm pretty sure that both would answer yes to that question, but they would probably also answer yes to the question "Can you see that leprachaun on the mantelpiece?". Leading questions work especially well on children. Next time you're with a child under 7, as him or her "How is your tummy ache?". I bet you they won't say "I haven't got a tummy ache"!

That's why using the mobile phone removes the effect of lying and the child's imagination.
 
Steen,

Besides, I thought that there was nothing paranormal to auras?

Neither do I.

According to websters dictionary paranormal has the same definition as supernatural, which is;
1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially : of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil
2 a : departing from what is usual or normal especially so as to appear to transcend the laws of nature b : attributed to an invisible agent (as a ghost or spirit)
I don’t think being able to see a persons aura falls into this category.

What I originally said is response to a trail of posts on the Bioelectromagnetics thread about the impact or otherwise of a Personal Harmoniser on the human body, is that it can be observed by those to can see the aura around people.

And here we are…
 
carla said:
What I originally said is response to a trail of posts on the Bioelectromagnetics thread about the impact or otherwise of a Personal Harmoniser on the human body, is that it can be observed by those to can see the aura around people.

And here we are…
What people can see an aura around a human body? Hallucinating looney tunes?
And here we are...

Edited to add that I have heard some shrooms or mesaline or blotter acid has produced some similar effects. Not that I would know.
 
What are auras made from? Could you please explain how they do not viloate the first law of thermodynamics (ie energy cannot be created or destoryed).
 
carla,

Can "suitably sensitive" people or children see auras in a fully darkened room? Do you believe auras are a projection of light, or a refraction of existing light? Or not light at all (so why do we "see" them?)
 
Steen,

Regarding aura here are a few links as background reading.

http://www.item-bioenergy.com/rfi/science.html

http://www.parapsychology.org/dynamic/info/pfbib23.pdf

http://lkm.fri.uni-lj.si/xaigor/slo/kirlian0.htm

Interesting thing the ability to see aura. Why do I know so many people who can see them? I ask. Interestingly, if I use my 22 year son, who I take as a reliable person with whom to communicate, not only can aura been seen around any living thing, or more particularly anything containing water or in water vapour, but they can also be seen around electrical equipment. So perhapds here is a clue to what is being observed.

Most westerners have lost a childhood ability and western science has very much a can’t touch, see or hear it, therefore it doesn’t exist. Yet take the common dream, now there is something you could apply skepticism to. If I could prove I dream, then perhaps I could win $1M!
 
carla said:

As for the prize, I suggest that it will be never claimed, as those who have the abilities required to claim the prize won’t be interested. Bit of a catch 22 there.

Yes. An excellent excuse to get out of providing evidence for unusual claims.
The million could be donated to a good charity. And the frontiers of human knowledge would be advanced.

The selfishness of this excuse amazes me.
 
carla said:
Most westerners have lost a childhood ability and western science has very much a can’t touch, see or hear it, therefore it doesn’t exist. Yet take the common dream, now there is something you could apply skepticism to. If I could prove I dream, then perhaps I could win $1M!

"Nothing can be proven therefore my claim is true!"
 
carla said:
(snip) Bit of a catch 22 there.


There is so much wrong with so much of what you've said... but you do know that Catch #22 is a specific catch in the U.S. Army Air Corp manual from the second World War with regards to the process for grounding a pilot due to his mental state? Well, that and it's not real, because it comes from a work of fiction... titled: Catch 22. It's a good read.

So maybe you've discovered a catch... but it's not the one numbered 22.



Some catch anyway. People who take money by the minute to provide their psychic skills can't be bothered to take a million dollars just to let someone prove to the world that they are right... (assuming they would pass the tests).


That's not much of a catch...
 
Carl,
carla said:
You were asked previously if you believed in Kirlian photography. One of these links is to a site about that, so I suppose that was an affirmative. I have never studied Kirlian photography, but as far as I know, it has been thoroughly debunked a long time ago. I am sure somebody here will be able to give the references if you are interested.

Another of your links was to a site about something called RFI. I think it was such a device that I saw demonstrated once in a TV program. A couple of researchers showed how these aura pictures were generated and there was nothing supernatural about it. The researchers also built a primitive apparatus that could do exactly the same thing.

Your third link is a bibliography which I have not pursued - if it is at all possible over the internet.

It is interesting that so much of this material seems to come from Russia. Paranormal "research" seems to have a firm grip there. Apparently scientists in Russia have lost their critical sense during the long years of darkness.

Steen
 
Interestingly, if I use my 22 year son, who I take as a reliable person with whom to communicate, not only can aura been seen around any living thing, or more particularly anything containing water or in water vapour, but they can also be seen around electrical equipment. So perhapds here is a clue to what is being observed.

Most westerners have lost a childhood ability and western science has very much a can’t touch, see or hear it, therefore it doesn’t exist. Yet take the common dream, now there is something you could apply skepticism to. If I could prove I dream, then perhaps I could win $1M! [/B]

No need to prove dreams. You have a definite, testable claim. If your son can use his powers to find water in a vessel, that can be tested and the million is his.

Now, what excuse have you to offer for why your son is the only 22 year old lad in the world who doesn't fancy a million bucks?
 
carla said:
Steen,

Regarding aura here are a few links as background reading.

http://www.item-bioenergy.com/rfi/science.html

http://www.parapsychology.org/dynamic/info/pfbib23.pdf

http://lkm.fri.uni-lj.si/xaigor/slo/kirlian0.htm

Interesting thing the ability to see aura. Why do I know so many people who can see them? I ask. Interestingly, if I use my 22 year son, who I take as a reliable person with whom to communicate, not only can aura been seen around any living thing, or more particularly anything containing water or in water vapour, but they can also be seen around electrical equipment. So perhapds here is a clue to what is being observed.

Most westerners have lost a childhood ability and western science has very much a can’t touch, see or hear it, therefore it doesn’t exist. Yet take the common dream, now there is something you could apply skepticism to. If I could prove I dream, then perhaps I could win $1M!

So-called "Kirlian auras" can be produced around a dampened sponge... a dampened plastic sponge.

'nuff said.
 
Sigh.

Stare at a tree with a backdrop of sky for a bit. Then look a little bit to the edge fo the tree. You can still see the outline of the tree in a lighter color as an after-image, the 'aura'. Optical illusion. Works with anything that has a contrasting background.

I also remember a science trick from when I was a kid that had you stare at a US flag that was displayed with different colors. When you looked at a white area you could 'see' the flag in its true colors floating against the white. Hence the different colored auras.

(I wonder if it is now illegal to display the flag with different colors, even though the after-image will reveal its proper aspect?)
 
carla said:
Interestingly, if I use my 22 year son, who I take as a reliable person with whom to communicate, not only can aura been seen around any living thing, or more particularly anything containing water or in water vapour, but they can also be seen around electrical equipment. So perhapds here is a clue to what is being observed.
I wonder, does the range and quality of the Aura get affected by combinations, or does the presence of one factor lead to a constant aura. I would expect a multiplcation effect.

Perhaps you would be kind enough to run an experiment for me.

If you stand in the shower holding an electrical device (a TV say) and ask your son to watch your aura and compare the size range and strenght in the following situations

Shower off, TV off

Shower off, TV on

Shower on TV off. and finally

Shower on TV on.


Thanks.
 
Bottle or the Gun said:
(I wonder if it is now illegal to display the flag with different colors, even though the after-image will reveal its proper aspect?)

Oddly enough, it's never been illegal to display the flag in any matter one so chooses (even dayglo orange and neon pink). The U.S. has no laws about flags. They do have Codes, but they are not laws (they describe the right way to display it, but offer no legal consequences nor penalties for failure to adhere to these rules).

So, to answer your question, no, it isn't illegal. Nor would it be illegal to make U.S. flag toilet paper (at least as far as flag laws are concerned), but I'd expect a lot of flak for something like that.
 

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