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Chemtrails?

Ladewig said:
I cannot think of a less useful way of dispersing poisons, infertility drugs, and mind-control drugs than by spraying them out the back of a plane at 38,000 feet.


ETA: I take it back. Digging a hole 38,000 feet deep and pouring chemicals in there with hopes that it will enter the groundwater may be less useful.


MORE ETA: I take back my takeback. At least with the chemicals in the deep well, you can target people within a mile or two of the hole. If you are spraying chemicals from a plane they could easily end up 20+ miles from your target.

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As for your opening post, Mr. Sisyphus, all I can say is " You cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not use reason to arrive at."
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It is worse than that. Spraying anything from that height would first cause most everything to dissipate so much to be completely undetectable by the time it reaches the ground. It could end up not only 20 but hundreds if not THOUSANDS of miles away from the location it is sprayed.

The majority of "evidence" "chemtrailers" have is they SAY that contrails always dissipate and ONLY "chemtrails" persist. Since a contrail is essentially a cirrus cloud, by saying it never persists and always dissipates they are also saying that cirrus clouds can't exist.
 
jimfish said:
The real panel taken from a Boeing 757 or 767, if a poster over at AboveTopSecret is to be believed.
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'Shopped from the fuel jettison panel on the Boeing 767, confirmed. I worked briefly with Evans and Sutherland on the full-cockpit motion-base simulator for the B-767 back in the early 1990s.
 
Just the other day I was taking a look around at niburu.nl

What a bag full of crazy that place is!

They also have a UFO register where visitors can report a sighting. A lot mention orbs of light near chemtrails :rolleyes:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXA7ml7qNM8

why assume these "chemtrails" are bad? im trying to get hired as a chemtrail refueler but i cant find any airports hiring for that position. someone has to do it so chemtrail manufacturers, transporters, handlers etc are job creators.


(this usually shuts down the chemtrail argument :)
 
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I've drunk the Kool-Aid and now am on the other side

frenat said:
It is worse than that. Spraying anything from that height would first cause most everything to dissipate so much to be completely undetectable by the time it reaches the ground. It could end up not only 20 but hundreds if not THOUSANDS of miles away from the location it is sprayed.

The majority of "evidence" "chemtrailers" have is they SAY that contrails always dissipate and ONLY "chemtrails" persist. Since a contrail is essentially a cirrus cloud, by saying it never persists and always dissipates they are also saying that cirrus clouds can't exist.
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Of course!!11!! Of course that's true. Nobody is saying that's not true. YES If they were targeting a small patch of land, then chemtrails would be useless. But the point your missing in you're post is that they are targeting all of North American and Europé and France11!!11 Don't you sheeple understand the scope of this crime??¿??
 
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Ladewig said:
I've drunk the Kool-Aid and now am on the other side




Of course!!11!! Of course that's true. Nobody is saying that's not true. YES If they were targeting a small patch of land, then chemtrails would be useless. But the point your missing in you're post is that they are targeting all of North American and Europé and France11!!11 Don't you sheeple understand the scope of this crime??¿??
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Ah, but they're NOT. I used to live in Panama City, FL. All around the city are military training airspaces. They aren't active all the time (even less now that the F-15 moved out of Tyndall and they only have the F-22) but whether they are active or not they routinely route commercial traffic around the area. As a result you have very few contrails, persistent or not, at all, any time of the year. These aren't restricted airspaces and commercial traffic CAN go through them, they just choose not to. IF it were a secret military program then there should be no problem using that airspace (especially when the airspace is not active which is the majority of the time) but still no mythical "chemtrails". There are other areas around the country with similar situations as well.
 
Ladewig said:
I've drunk the Kool-Aid and now am on the other side




Of course!!11!! Of course that's true. Nobody is saying that's not true. YES If they were targeting a small patch of land, then chemtrails would be useless. But the point your missing in you're post is that they are targeting all of North American and Europé and France11!!11 Don't you sheeple understand the scope of this crime??¿??
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Mmmm, and russia, and India, and China, and the Atlantic ocean .....
.... and no doubt practically any spot on Earth that is en route between populated areas, but I am only mentioning those places where I have seen persistent contrails with my own eyes (and flown in planes leaving them).

Hans
 
(POE)I live just outside a town of 15000 inhabitants and just before the long weekend there was quite an uptic in the number of high flying jets passing overhead.....

What else, other than a chemtrail experiment, could cause that to occur,,, huh, huh, yeah, think about it
 
frenat said:
The majority of "evidence" "chemtrailers" have is they SAY that contrails always dissipate and ONLY "chemtrails" persist. Since a contrail is essentially a cirrus cloud, by saying it never persists and always dissipates they are also saying that cirrus clouds can't exist.
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I like to quote Antoine St. Exupery at them:
Flight to Arras said:
The German on the ground knows us by the pearly white scarf which every plane flying at high altitudes trails behind like a bridal veil. The disturbance created by our meteoric flight crystallizes the watery vapor in the atmosphere. We unwind behind us a cirrus of icicles. If the atmospheric conditions are favorable to the formation of clouds, our wake will thicken bit by bit and become an evening cloud over the countryside.
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There usually isn't any reply.
 
Contrails that consist of ice crystals can, with the correct atmospheric conditions, 'seed' the air allowing more supercooled water vapour to condense, thus increasing the size of the cloud.

IIRC that was how it was explained to me by a physics prof waaay back in the '70s.
 
Bell said:
Just the other day I was taking a look around at niburu.nl

What a bag full of crazy that place is!

They also have a UFO register where visitors can report a sighting. A lot mention orbs of light near chemtrails :rolleyes:
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Its a pity a lot of that site is in dutch for most of the forum :)
It's a great fun read.
There isn't a conspiracy theory they DON'T like, so they just host them all.
According to that site there are about 10-20 different all powerful shadowy organizations, all of which have different (often contradictory) agenda's
At the same time there are about another 10 to 20 different alien cultures all "just about" to contact us to "help us evolve/protect the environent/stop the banks/etc"
Yet there are also multiple types of spirits all on the verge of lifting the earth to its next level, which means different things for different spirits, at different times.
If that site is to be believed its a wonder you can walk outside without running into some supressed conspiracy ;)

But of course we all are kept stupid due to chemtrails
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Its a pity a lot of that site is in dutch for most of the forum :)
It's a great fun read.
There isn't a conspiracy theory they DON'T like, so they just host them all.
According to that site there are about 10-20 different all powerful shadowy organizations, all of which have different (often contradictory) agenda's
At the same time there are about another 10 to 20 different alien cultures all "just about" to contact us to "help us evolve/protect the environent/stop the banks/etc"
Yet there are also multiple types of spirits all on the verge of lifting the earth to its next level, which means different things for different spirits, at different times.
If that site is to be believed its a wonder you can walk outside without running into some supressed conspiracy ;)

But of course we all are kept stupid due to chemtrails
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Indeed, niburu posts *everything* and all the members (bare a few) wholeheartedly agree, clap their hands and high five. Most believer arguments come down to we skeptics having a narrow mind. (And some stuff about 3D, 4D and 5D).

They also believe in a hollow earth, Schumann resonation, memory of water... (cue sound effect of cassette tape being fast forwarded).

By the way, aliens are not just about to contact us... There is one, SaLuSa from Sirius, writing letters that get published on their site :rolleyes:
 
Hi my first post here! Cool forum, finally a place of sanity! As for chemtrails, as if the government would allow planes to spray poisons over the taxpayers!! Let alone the number of people that would have to be involved in something like that and still keep it secret is crazy.

Even if they are spraying, it has to be for our benefit and maybe its best we do not know why they are doing it?

I am so tired of all the folks at work who talk about chemtrails, and banking ****, and fluoride in the water, and everything else that goes with it. Why can't they just do their work, pay their taxes, go home and enjoy their weekends happy to have those? Maybe if they stopped staring at the sky they would do more work, earn that raise they are bitching about and be able to pay the debts they agreed to?

Anyways rant off, good to finally find a place of sanity on the net!
 
catweasel said:
Hi my first post here! Cool forum, finally a place of sanity! As for chemtrails, as if the government would allow planes to spray poisons over the taxpayers!! Let alone the number of people that would have to be involved in something like that and still keep it secret is crazy.

Even if they are spraying, it has to be for our benefit and maybe its best we do not know why they are doing it?

I am so tired of all the folks at work who talk about chemtrails, and banking ****, and fluoride in the water, and everything else that goes with it. Why can't they just do their work, pay their taxes, go home and enjoy their weekends happy to have those? Maybe if they stopped staring at the sky they would do more work, earn that raise they are bitching about and be able to pay the debts they agreed to?

Anyways rant off, good to finally find a place of sanity on the net!
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Welcome to the forum. May your post here be the first of many. I agree with you on your views about the forum.
 
Scott Sommers said:
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. If the global government can fake the Holocaust, pull of the 9/11 attacks while blaming a bunch of guys who are still alive, AND get a foreign national elected in to the White House, spraying chemtrails all over the world should be nothing. Use that logical thinking that skeptics are supposed to have so much of.
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The problem is we are, and the fact is that anyone here could come up with a better plan to disperse poison than this. So either your saying that the NWO has not one member smarter than anyone on the JREF , or you are forced to look into the fact that this was obviously made up by someone who doesn't really know effective ways to get poison into a population.
 
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