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Cont: Cancel culture IRL Part 2

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Hercules56 said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/21/arts/92ny-viet-thanh-nguyen-israel.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyu-law-student-israel-hamas-ryna-workman-harvard/

https://nypost.com/2023/10/17/nyc-doctor-dana-diab-fired-over-pro-hamas-social-media-post/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ter-harvard-columbia-us-law-firm-jobs-revoked

Now its the Left who are victims of Cancel Culture, if they excuse or justify Hamas' war crimes against Israeli civilians.

Ah, the shoe is on the other foot.
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Yes, finally, the people speaking on behalf of marginalized groups are getting stomped. Our society has propped up people who speak out against popular opinion for far too long.
 
Donal said:
Yes, finally, the people speaking on behalf of marginalized groups are getting stomped. Our society has propped up people who speak out against popular opinion for far too long.
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I've seen tons, and tons of "we feel awful for the Palestinian people", "can't we just stop the violence", even a CNN reporter giving an Egyptian pro-Palestinian protestor the microphone to say her peace. No one is getting canceled for "speaking on behalf of marginalized groups". (OK maybe a very right wing law firm is).

Here is a direct quote from one of Hercules' links:

Dina [sic] Diab took to Instagram rejoicing Zionist settlers [aka jews] were murdered, raped, beheaded, and kidnapped by the Hamas terror group on Saturday October 7th,” Stop Antisemitism wrote alongside the images.

“Jewish patients beware.”

You think a hospital should employee healthcare workers who say "Jewish patients beware"?? I find it hard to believe you'd think the same if she had said "Arab patients beware".
 
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i'm sure the guys who spent the last five years telling us how calling someone a nazi online is the worst thing you can do will be along to help out
 
lobosrul5 said:
I've seen tons, and tons of "we feel awful for the Palestinian people", "can't we just stop the violence", even a CNN reporter giving an Egyptian pro-Palestinian protestor the microphone to say her peace. No one is getting canceled for "speaking on behalf of marginalized groups". (OK maybe a very right wing law firm is).
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Even if true, and it's not, this is the kind of apologetics that might be used to defend Saudi Arabia's anti-blasphemy law: "Very few people are actually executed." One of the main problems is the chilling effect on speech.

As usual, The Onion had the best take. Their editorial was headlined: "The Onion stands with Israel because it seems like you get in less trouble for that."

As for cancellations, off the top of my head:

An Air Canada pilot.

An editor for a scientific journal.

A Philadelphia sports reporter.

A Guardian cartoonist.

The CAA executive's anodyne comments on Instagram (though she has not (yet) been fired).

Glenn Greenwald has been like the IDF on this front: he's killin' it. And pointing out the unsurprising hypocrisy of right-wingers he's befriended in recent years.
 
Harvard is forming a task force to help those who supported Hamas:

Harvard will establish a task force to support students experiencing doxxing, harassment, and online security issues following backlash against students allegedly affiliated with a statement that held Israel “entirely responsible” for violence in the Israel-Hamas conflict.

The new task force will be in operation until Nov. 3, at which point the task force will reassess its efforts to ensure that its work meets student needs, according to an email obtained by The Crimson. The message, dated Tuesday, was sent to doxxed students by Dean of Students Thomas Dunne.

“We are truly grateful for all the tremendous work that students have put forth in supporting each other through this most difficult time, and we appreciate the collaborative spirit in which students, faculty, and staff have come together to repel this repugnant assault on our community,” Dunne wrote.
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lobosrul5 said:
I've seen tons, and tons of "we feel awful for the Palestinian people", "can't we just stop the violence", even a CNN reporter giving an Egyptian pro-Palestinian protestor the microphone to say her peace. No one is getting canceled for "speaking on behalf of marginalized groups". (OK maybe a very right wing law firm is).

Here is a direct quote from one of Hercules' links:

Dina [sic] Diab took to Instagram rejoicing Zionist settlers [aka jews] were murdered, raped, beheaded, and kidnapped by the Hamas terror group on Saturday October 7th,” Stop Antisemitism wrote alongside the images.

“Jewish patients beware.”

You think a hospital should employee healthcare workers who say "Jewish patients beware"?? I find it hard to believe you'd think the same if she had said "Arab patients beware".
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Courtney Carey might disagree.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/...-company-over-anti-israel-social-media-posts/
 
Brainster said:
Harvard is forming a task force to help those who supported Hamas:
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Good, because the doxxing harassment is terrible. Yesterday, I saw that truck parked across the street from a family whose kid attends Harvard. It was parked there all day, about ten miles from Harvard.

AIM has the legal right to use the truck thus, but it's a dick move. I'd cut some slack for college students who go too far in their criticism of Israel (and I do agree that the letters went too far).

Fortunately, I don't think that this family will receive anything but support DM their neighbors, but I could be wrong.

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phiwum said:
Good, because the doxxing harassment is terrible. Yesterday, I saw that truck parked across the street from a family whose kid attends Harvard. It was parked there all day, about ten miles from Harvard.

AIM has the legal right to use the truck thus, but it's a dick move. I'd cut some slack for college students who go too far in their criticism of Israel (and I do agree that the letters went too far).
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Agreed on both counts; had social media been around in my college years I would probably have been unemployable.:D
 
Brainster said:
My goodness, fired by an Israeli company, for posting anti-Israel comments online? The horror!
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And illegal. Wix are currently backpeddling.

But then the USAian obsession with free speech has always been rather selective.
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phiwum said:
Good, because the doxxing harassment is terrible. Yesterday, I saw that truck parked across the street from a family whose kid attends Harvard. It was parked there all day, about ten miles from Harvard.
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Hard agree on the highlighted bit.

Speaking of "Cancel Culture" (which totally isn't a thing according to some folks) there is a new book out on the subject, from one of the guys at FIRE.

As president of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, Lukianoff has been either in front of the camera or behind the scenes of almost every major free speech controversy over the past 25 years. A near sui generis figure in American legal history, he’s the rarest of creatures in modern public life: someone dedicated to elevating principle over tribalism, a progressive who’s willing to ally himself with anyone — even the Koch brothers — who supports his larger cause.

That cause is a near absolute commitment to the First Amendment and civil liberties. It’s premised upon a faith in the human capacity to tolerate complexity, hearkening to F. Scott Fitzgerald’s observation that “the test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.” That Americans can recognize the importance of the due process rights of a likely criminal or the speech rights of someone with extreme or loathsome views.
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Read more here.
 
Courtesy of the 'Daily Fail' the consequences of showing sympathy to Jews after the 7th of October in Australia, and the happy sequel...


A Melbourne restaurant owner was 'blown away' after losing 90 per cent of his bookings after posting a message of support for the Jewish community in a Facebook group.

The Mediterranean Greek Tavern, based in the south-eastern suburb of Elsternwick which has a large Jewish population, expressed sympathy and solidarity with locals after the atrocities committed by Hamas terrorists in Israel on October 7.

Co-owner Perry Le Greco told Daily Mail Australia he wanted the Tavern's Jewish customers to know he was thinking of them, but there was a very disturbing backlash with cancelled bookings, no shows and vile abuse.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...loses-90-percent-bookings-support-Israel.html
 
oh he lost 90% of his bookings after making what appears to be a pretty inoffensive and well meaning facebook post in support of jews. sounds like a believable and well fact checked article.
 
dirtywick said:
oh he lost 90% of his bookings after making what appears to be a pretty inoffensive and well meaning facebook post in support of jews. sounds like a believable and well fact checked article.
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How dare he show support for Jews after 1,400 Jews are murdered!!!! He must be cancelled!!!

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