Calls for a Cease Fire Are a Ploy

[AmateurScientist]

Hezbollah's, the Lebanese government's, and others' calls for a cease fire are a ploy. They call for one because they are losing and Israel has them cut off and has the ability to continue to punish them severely.

Israel can wait this out a lot longer than can Hezbollah. Israel stands nothing to gain from a cease fire. Doing so would only allow Hezbollah time to regroup, reorganize, and rearm. Talks will accomplish nothing, as both sides are firmly entrenched in their positions. Hezbollah wants to keep its arms and to destroy Israel, and Israel will not negotiate with terrorists.

A cease fire is a pipe dream for peaceniks who want peace at all costs.

Israel would be foolish to stop this military action it is winning. This blockade/siege may take weeks or months, but sticking it out will result in a surrender by their enemy. Hunger and fatigue will result in Hezbollah's resolve weakening, and eventually they will be less bold as they are now. They'll face pressure from within Lebanon and from other nations to give it up and they will, for now. It will take time and steadfast pressure and bombardment by Israel.

I think Israel will gain much more politically from other Middle East countries by demonstrating its strength and resolve and willinglyness to put its money where its mouth is. Folding to any negotiations will be seen as weakness, and in my opinion, a fatal flaw.

AS

 

[Rob Lister]

Go Israel.

 

[geni]

Israel can wait this out a lot longer than can Hezbollah.

Unless it is unlucky and it hits some of those westoners before we have finished getting them out.

 

[webfusion]

See:
Rhodes' Armistice 1949
(violated time and again throughout the 1950's -- leading to the 1956 War,
which in turn eventually resulted in the 1967 Six Day War).

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Israel would be foolish to stop this military action it is winning.

According to AlManara TV, Israel is losing. One of their editors just was interviewed on an American TV cable news network and he declared that Israel has "not destroyed even one Hezbollah target, and is only hitting civilian targets."

He said that with a straight face.

 

[webfusion]

Unless it is unlucky and it hits some of those westoners before we have finished getting them out.

What if Hezbollah hits them? What is stopping the Hezbollah from using a GRAIL anti-aircraft missile against these 'rescue' helicopters or an anti-ship missile against the Orient Queen? And then claiming it was really Israel's fault? How likely is that scenario?

 

[geni]

What if Hezbollah hits them? What is stopping the Hezbollah from using a GRAIL anti-aircraft missile against these 'rescue' helicopters or an anti-ship missile against the Orient Queen? And then claiming it was really Israel's fault? How likely is that scenario?

I doubt they would credit Israel with attacking disliked weasterners. Any militry ships in the area risk being attacked. Do the french have any?

 

[webfusion]

I doubt they would credit Israel with attacking disliked weasterners. Any militry ships in the area risk being attacked. Do the french have any?

The Hezbollah are trying to stir the pot, and I wouldn't put it beyond them to perpetrate a bombing of a hotel, and then try to pin it on Israeli incoming.

According to the LA Times (Megan K. Stack reporting from Beirut) -- A ferry chartered by the French government carried about 800 of its citizens and several dozen Americans to Cyprus on Monday.

 

[WildCat]

What if Hezbollah hits them? What is stopping the Hezbollah from using a GRAIL anti-aircraft missile against these 'rescue' helicopters or an anti-ship missile against the Orient Queen? And then claiming it was really Israel's fault? How likely is that scenario?

The Pentagon is also sending a Navy destroyer, the Gonzalez, to protect the ferry.

I imagine the Gonzalez will position itself between the rescue ship and the shore. It should have short range anti-missile weapons at the ready.

 

[webfusion]

Hopefully the USS Gonzalez doesn't suffer the same fate as the INS Spear or the Cambodian merchant vessel that was sunk by an Iranian-supplied Chinese c802 a few days ago.


ETA ______ OK, I should add the official Iranian disclaimer: "We deny involvement with those missile actions."
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/11443.asp

Just trying to keep the record straight...

 

[geni]

The Hezbollah are trying to stir the pot, and I wouldn't put it beyond them to perpetrate a bombing of a hotel, and then try to pin it on Israeli incoming.

Slightly different from an anti ship missiel. I'm not sure it would word too well though.

According to the LA Times (Megan K. Stack reporting from Beirut) -- A ferry chartered by the French government carried about 800 of its citizens and several dozen Americans to Cyprus on Monday.

If Hezbollah had hit that there is a fair chance that Syria would have been glass by the next morning.

 

[geni]

I imagine the Gonzalez will position itself between the rescue ship and the shore. It should have short range anti-missile weapons at the ready.

Operation millenium challenge suggests that might not work.

 

[Azure]

I doubt they would credit Israel with attacking disliked weasterners. Any militry ships in the area risk being attacked. Do the french have any?

Are you infering that you want the French to be attacked?

 

[American]

Hezbollah's, the Lebanese government's, and others' calls for a cease fire are a ploy. They call for one because they are losing...

THEY'RE GENIUSES!

MASTERS of trickery!!!!!!!!

 

[geni]

Are you infering that you want the French to be attacked?

Recent french activities suggests they would react somewhat violently to such an event.

 

[WildCat]

Operation millenium challenge suggests that might not work.

Ha! That had Saddam sinking the US fleet in the Persian Gulf using warships disguised as civilian vessels.

Granted, Hezbollah could maybe manage to sink a vessel in port but I doubt they could in the open sea. It would be hard to claim Israel did it if it happened in port in front of thousands of witnesses though.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

What exactly is Isreal winning? Winning by destroying innocent lebanese civlians? As was mentioned already, Isreal has yet to hit a single Hezbollah military target. All they are destroying are lebanese civlians.


You should also remember Hezbollah is supported by Iran and Syria. If Hezbollah wanted they could make this situation alot worse than it currently is.

 

[Azure]

Recent french activities suggests they would react somewhat violently to such an event.

And that is a good thing?

 

[Azure]

What exactly is Isreal winning? Winning by destroying innocent lebanese civlians? As was mentioned already, Isreal has yet to hit a single Hezbollah military target. All they are destroying are lebanese civlians.


You should also remember Hezbollah is supported by Iran and Syria. If Hezbollah wanted they could make this situation alot worse than it currently is.

Oh no, I am soooo scared.

Are you supporting Hezbollah?

 

[WildCat]

What exactly is Isreal winning? Winning by destroying innocent lebanese civlians? As was mentioned already, Isreal has yet to hit a single Hezbollah military target. All they are destroying are lebanese civlians.

Sure, Hezbollah says so so it must be true!

You should also remember Hezbollah is supported by Iran and Syria. If Hezbollah wanted they could make this situation alot worse than it currently is.

IMHO Hezbollah will find that their sponsors don't like getting their hands dirty themselves. They much prefer that Hezbollah be the patsies.

 

[American]

Hezbollah says so so it must be true!

FOOL!

They are making this clever call for a cease fire, but with the secret intention of later re-grouping. And you are falling for it!