Bioelectromagnetics

Beleth

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How about using the Science, Mathematics, Medicine, and Technology forum instead of creating a new forum?
 
Well... fine.

I still think that the new thread should go under SMM&T.
 
They can in Pontypool mate. It's the Brains'.

(Brains is a Welsh Brewery. Their S.A. is well known for shrinking grey matter.)
 
from Soapy Sam:
(Brains is a Welsh Brewery. Their S.A. is well known for shrinking grey matter.)
Is you talking to me, butt? Everybody knows there's no beer of decent quality at all in Scotland. And all Scots are "Loopy as Poolers", as the saying is round here.
 
In my own experience, I've found that electromagnetic radiation seems to be beneficial to basil plants.

Oh, and high levels of high-frequency radio waves make organic tissues taste better.
 
Phildonnia said-
In my own experience, I've found that electromagnetic radiation seems to be beneficial to basil plants.

Granted. Especially sunlight.:D

(Yes, I know you're taking the mickey. Not sure everyone here will be though.)

Capeldodger- Loopy as a pooler? Explanation?
(By the way, I'm a Felin Foel man meself).


Roger- apologies for thread sidetracking. Did you have something particular in mind with your original post?
 
from Soapy Sam:
Loopy as a pooler? Explanation?
Pontypool Rugby Club are known as the Poolers, and have a reputation for almost insane bravery/recklessness. "Loopy as a Pooler" has the sort of palindromic word-play Celtic culture has always been so fond of.

Felinfoel Double Dragon is a very fine beer. Truth is, there's only one Dragon, which is some indication of the beer's strength. Denigrators refer to it as "Feeling Foul" but that's because they don't wear amethysts as part of their drinking rig.

My Gwent sources place this lab next to the Gypsy camp, just by two scrapyards. I hope the scrappies don't use electro-magnetic grabs, given Roger Coghill's concerns.:)
 
Soapy Sam said:
Phildonnia said-
In my own experience, I've found that electromagnetic radiation seems to be beneficial to basil plants.

Granted. Especially sunlight.:D

(Yes, I know you're taking the mickey. Not sure everyone here will be though.)

Aw, crap, I forgot the smiley again!
 
Pardon my confusion, but did I miss something?
Lab??
Gypsies?
Degrading remarks?
Low tackles?

Back to Roger- like I said, apologies for the mild humorous hijack- what was the purpose, if any of your original post? Do you have something specific you wanted to discuss?

It's my understanding that life, like all chemistry , is electrical. Moving electrons generate a magnetic field. So much is elementary. Sufficiently powerful magnetic fields make useful diagnostic tools in medicine. What have you in mind?
 
CapelDodger said:
from Soapy Sam:

Pontypool Rugby Club are known as the Poolers, and have a reputation for almost insane bravery/recklessness. "Loopy as a Pooler" has the sort of palindromic word-play Celtic culture has always been so fond of.

Felinfoel Double Dragon is a very fine beer. Truth is, there's only one Dragon, which is some indication of the beer's strength. Denigrators refer to it as "Feeling Foul" but that's because they don't wear amethysts as part of their drinking rig.

My Gwent sources place this lab next to the Gypsy camp, just by two scrapyards. I hope the scrappies don't use electro-magnetic grabs, given Roger Coghill's concerns.:)
[pyr]Reported for "breaking the law". As I have no idea what law, if any, is being broken, I will take no action on this.[/pyr]
 
It got appealed to me, and I have to confess, I don't see where anything other than foolish joking around has occured. Roger, I wouldn't take offense, and I wouldn't take the joking seriously. But then, maybe there's a cultural jab in there we Americans don't get. At any rate, cultural jabs aren't against the rules, although we would like civil discourse.
Roger, why don't you continue with your discussion and ignore the "chatter".
 
So far Mr. Coghill is the only "visitor" who hasn't attacked skeptics and he has replied to questions.

I would be upset too if I were in his place but I am not an American and I do not enjoy the kindergarden atmosphere out of the kindergarden.
 
I have been on this board for two years plus and have reported a post to the mods once, when a poster was being deliberately abusive to a third party.
I find it strange that a new poster would take this action so early after his first appearance here, particularly as I can see no degrading remarks in any of the posts in the thread which match his criticisms.

There is a mild joke about jackmott's use of the term "grow smaller", started by Yaweh, kicked on by me and pounced on by Capeldodger. Each of us knows the other's style well and no offense was meant or taken. Roger , who does not, seems to have perceived an attack on himself, on Gypsies and on environmentalists.

I do not understand Lorri's response at all. I am not sure if it is aimed at me or Capeldodger.

I agree that the thread, which did not appear to be going anywhere, was mildly derailed by myself and others. I have already apologised for that.

I am left feeling I have missed something here. Some unrevealed agenda perhaps. I will not be posting here for some time. I will be interested to see where this goes.
 
But back to the topic...

I may have some insight on the interactions between organic matter and electromagnetic radiation: this was not intended as an experiment, but in hindsight, all the proper controls were in place:

4/27/2004, 7:00 pm, PDT

I subjected approximately 100g of mixed beef and pork tissue at 270K to 10cm radiation at a rate of approximatedly 800W for 60 seconds. The result was put on a toasted bun and presented to Mrs Phildonnia, who declared (without any prompting from the experimenter) "Hey, this hot-dog is still frozen in the middle!". The remainder was then subjected to an additional 60 seconds of radiation, and the process repeated, with a more favorable judgement from the human subject.
 
I would like to categorically agree with Cleopatra.

It looks like Mr. Coghill has a made a legitimate effort to discuss something that he has a serious interest in and all he has gotten is a bunch of crap.

I am with soapy sam and look forward to seeing where this thread is going.

Perhaps Mr. Coghill could give us a little bit more information about what he wants to talk about or perhaps he would like to restart the thread in the science sub forum.
 
I think the problem started when you did not actually open any discussion in your opening post. As elsewhere, an empty slap attracts grafiti.

I agree partly with Cleopatra that you have been answering questions, but only partly, because I think your answering has been somewhat selective. This may be due to many questions and lack of time, so let's let that lie.

I would like to open then with a question: What is bioelectromagnetics (as opposed to Electromagnetics)?

Hans
 
cogreslab said:
*snip* You already have now some idea of the level of capability we have in this field, from my previous posts on the thread started by Cleopatra.

Kind regards,
Would that be your claim that EM waves can be deflected by things not in their path, or that crystals can amplify ;)?

Anyhow, the main subject is valid, but numerous tests have been carried out, without disclosing anything conclusive. I am aware of the vested interests, there is no such thing as an independent party, but these reports have been published. I would find it more interesting if you could point out flaws in those reports rather than attacking the character of those who made them.

Hans
 
cogreslab said:
The fluoridation issue is not my field, but is another example of cover up. If you want a real shocker, however, just read the latest issue of the Ecologist which exposes the disgraceful way in which polio has been deliberately mislabelled as being of viral origin, when it is clearly related to pesticide toxicity.


So why has it's levels gone through the floor. Secondly what is in the vacine
Another mighty cover-up is the AIDS scandal perpetrated by NCI (National Cancer Institute) in the early 1980s. NCI pretended to find a virus which later the Pasteur Institute could prove was one they had previously sent as a sample to Robert Gallo at NCI. The first pictures appearing in Nature in Gallo's paper were actually of the Pasteur Institute's virus not any deriving from NCI!

Source for this (and virusmyth.net is not a source)?
 

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