Bioelectromagnetics

By the way Hans, your appellation (MRC_Hans) might be said to imply some connection with the Medical Research Council? Is that correct?
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No, not at all. The MRC handle is an old combat flight simulator handle, and has no relevance for these topics at all. It is just that I have used it on the internet for so long that a lot of people know me by that handle.

I do work in the medical industry, as a QA engineer. Education-wise, I'm an electronic engineer.

Hans
 
cogreslab said:
*snip* If you want a real shocker, however, just read the latest issue of the Ecologist which exposes the disgraceful way in which polio has been deliberately mislabelled as being of viral origin, when it is clearly related to pesticide toxicity.

*snip*
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Oh? So how come vaccine works? How come polio exists in countries where pesticide use is practically non-existent? How come it was prevalent in cities, whereas rural areas were rather safe?

Hans
 
cogreslab said:
I am continuing this dialogue in the Bioelectromagnetics thread from now, so please address any comments/replies on that topic there.
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Ummmm....Isn't that where we are now?
 
I can recall some years ago that there was a concern here in Connecticut (this is where we store white people in the USA, BTW) about power lines and cancer. It causesd a bit of a scare and sort of went away. I must say that an awful lot of expensive houses would have been effected had the scare not dissipated.

The scare de jure is now Radon.
 
cogreslab said:
One source for this issue is "AIDS: the HIV Myth" by Jad Adams, Mcmillan Publishers, 1989.
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Decade old research wich in the world of HIV research is forever.
 
Ok science. Virues do exist and humans when exposed to the polio virus will contract polio. Meningits is not polio. Despite the use of some very toxic chemicals there have been no cases of polio in uk chemistry labs for quite a while. We have wipped out the virus in many countries and the only common factor is vacinatio. When vacintation levels fell in nigeria the number of polio cases rose. That good enough for you?
 
cogreslab said:
The scam was over a decade old, geni. The passage of time doesnt make it less of a scam.
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Hmm care to be injected with the HIV virus? If not why not? A decade ago our understanding of AIDS was nowhere near the level it is now. If the HIV virus is not respocible why to the drugs which reduce the number of the virus increase life expectancy so much?
 
cogreslab said:
It's all very well using swearwords and unsupported value judgements, but please bring a little science into your posts.
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What, you want us to reduce to the little science you bring to bear here? You're a case, roger.

Regarding your morally repugnant babies-under-the-power-lines challenge, though, why don't these all fall over and die?

Or him?

Why don't Great Horned Owlscome crashing down from these poles?
 
Please see the challenge the rogbot wishes that you miss. Please also go to this thread that the rogbot hopes you will be distracted from. Please also note the rogbot thinks I posted studies, and responded to them. Somebody please tell the rogbot that those were pictures, not studies.
 
cogreslab said:
One source for this issue is "AIDS: the HIV Myth" by Jad Adams, Mcmillan Publishers, 1989. Curious to know, if it was not a virus, what might be the environmental cause of this acquired immunodeficit, I did some preliminary unpublished work and found a relationship between children born at the same time as MW telecommunications towers. Also a meta-analysis I did which compared registered AIDS cases and the levels of RF/MW radiation in the same cities as measured for the US Govt by Ric Tell found a correlation between high AIDS incidence and high RF/MW levels in the fifteen largest US cities. There seemed to be no relationship between city population size and AIDS incidence, which one might perhaps have expected from a viral aetiology.

None of this stuff is published, btw, so must at this stage be regarded as simply speculative on my part. Given the existing literature however, it would not surprise me to find this relationship borne out by a well conducted epi study. Sadly I have not the funding for such a research project.
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Is the suggestion that MW causes or is in some way responsible for AIDS?
 
cogreslab said:
To BillHoyt. First would you have the courtesy to adress me by my user name, cogreslab. Or would you like me to call you airhead? For that is how you are coming over. When I have that courtesy extended to me I will respond to your other comments.
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cogreslab said:
To geni: 20 percent of people with HIV do not have AIDS. a similar proportion of AIDS patients do not have HIV. How do you explain that? Refce: Adams, 1989. Moreover, one of the world's most reputable microbiologists Peter Duesberg offered to hacve himself injected with HIV in order to show it could not produce AIDS. And Luc Montagnier of the Pasteur Institute,, the discover of the HIV virus, himself says it cannot possibly be the cause of AIDS, simply a marker, just like a fire truck is marker for a house fire. Association does not prove a causal relationship, as any epidemiologist will tell you.
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HIV fulfills Koch's postulates as the cause of AIDS.


http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/evidhiv.htm

All your quotes are at least a decade old.
 
OK, first look at Roger's website rang my woowoo alarm loud and clear, but he seemed a gentleman so, benefit of doubt.

Well, no more. Woowoo it is. I can just squeeze you in on my ignore list (a busy place these days ;)).

Hans
 
In regards to the Coghill challenge.

http://www.cogreslab.co.uk/

Place any human infant of less than three months age to sleep each night for at least eight hours in an ELF electric field of 100 Volts per metre for thirty days. My studies predict that child will die, or become so seriously ill that the test will have to be called off. The NRPB and the power utilities' investigation levels by contrast predict there will be no adverse effect.

I will personally bet any NRPB member of staff or any any electric power utility worker around the world £2000 (or US$3000) willing to do this experiment, that my prediction will prove correct.
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:eek: :eek: :eek: WHOA!!!!!

Ummm....other than some ethical concerns, why would a human infant have to be used. Why not another mammal?


cogreslab wrote:
they should be free to proceed in any research direction they choose, and be unfettered
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Would the above be "unfettered"?

I believe somewhere you mentioned peer review. Have you published any papers? Have you been published in a peer reviewed journal? I'm looking through your website and I need help here.
 
Browsing your site Mr. Coghill I have discovered that you have worked on Atlantis as well.
http://www.galonja.co.uk/galonja_sh...&g_u_nam=&g_tim=&pid=59&v_det=1&full=1&c_id=0
We have a couple of threads about that. Maybe you want to post your comments there. I confess that I find disappointing the fact that a classicist cannot see what Plato meant with Atlantis.

Anyway. These are the threads I am talking about

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870433881#post1870433881

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32404&highlight=atlantis

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33523&highlight=atlantis
 
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