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And if you go to the Bigfootology website they have their creed posted. The creed is signed, Bigfootology(ist). Not kidding. Wouldn't Bigfootologist, while still a made-up word, flow a tad bit more smoothly off the tongue and look somewhat less ridiculous? I wonder if they get decoder rings too? This is the group that Sykes supposedly joined? I wonder if he adds Bigfootology(ist) to his bona fides right after world class geneticist?
 
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And if you go to the Bigfootology website they have their creed posted. The creed is signed, Bigfootology(ist). Not kidding. Wouldn't Bigfootologist, while still a made-up word, flow a tad bit more smoothly off the tongue and look somewhat less ridiculous? I wonder if they get decoder rings too? This is the group that Sykes supposedly joined? I wonder if he adds Bigfootology(ist) to his bona fides right after world class geneticist?
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That's just a Mullis bare assertion, right?
 
^^ I don't know for certain. I remember reading it somewhere a couple of months back. Mullis writes often of his close relationship with Sykes, so I think if it were wrong then Sykes would learn of this and it would taint the relationship. So I'm leaning toward it being true, but that's just my wild guess.
 
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^^ I don't know for certain. I remember reading it somewhere a couple of months back. Mullis writes often of his close relationship with Sykes, so I think if it were wrong then Sykes would learn of this and it would taint the relationship. So I'm leaning toward it being true, but that's just my wild guess.
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Judging from the post Resume quoted.. that guy is clearly delusional. It wouldn't surprise me at all if his "relationship" exists only in his head.
 
Well there you go. Zana wasn't a Neanderthal, she was just black - perhaps with some unfortunate disabilities - and surrounded by illiterate mountain bigots in some Russian backwater.
 
It seems indeed there's a sad and touching history behind it all, assuming the material can actually be traced down to her - not able to see the shows from here.

Can't actually trust in provenance when it comes down to bigfootery. If Burtsev was somehow involved on acquiring the material, I would have strong reservations...

...but again, haven't seen the show.
 
Very interesting, and very sad too. The poor woman......

Well done to Sharon Hill, again. Not sure how you scooped the show so far in advance, but well done. Don't forget your friends over at Sasquatch Forum......there'll be questions.

Interesting speculation about possible alternative origins to the escaped slave theory, too. A possible earlier migration out of Africa is mentioned, which sounds improbable, but interesting nonetheless.

So all of you people who have invested so much in Sykes in the hopes he'll confirm your sighting or whatever, it's time for a good hard re-think. Two years and lots of money has gone into collecting and examining the best evidence that bigfootery has got, that yeti hunters have, and that the Russians have. This is one of the leading scientists in the world, who has put his reputation in harms way (just read this thread!) to see if you have anything at all. What did he find?: not a single hint of anything mysterious-hominid-like whatsoever in the whole saga. You aren't being honest with yourselves if you just carry on regardless with the belief stuff. Who are you going to invest your hopes in now? Moneymaker? Yeah righto..... That guy who's duped you 2 or 3 times before and has a dead one locked away somewhere right now? OK, it's your money, I guess.

Give it up, people. The game's over.
 
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And the course of human history?

I am a bit confused as to how this is different from the earlier DNA tests and examinations of the skull?

Of course, this is a golden opportunity to claim that...wait for it...

It wasn't actually Kvit's skull...
 
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The course of human history thing is a reference to a possible alternative to the escaped slave idea......that there may have been an earlier isolated migration out of Africa. I'm only grabbing that from Sharon's article, so you'll have to wait to Sunday for the considered response, after it has aired on TV.
 
Is this "black Russian" stuff somehow controversial? I don't see any reason to doubt that some Africans were traded as slaves to Russian aristocracy. Why couldn't Zana (if there ever was such a woman) simply have been a descendant of African slaves? She could have been developmentally disabled and non-verbal. She could have been ostracized by her family due to her disability and raised as an animal. Maybe she was even some sideshow attraction in her youth, who knows? None of those things, however, would make her a bigfoot.
 
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Well there you go. Zana wasn't a Neanderthal, she was just black - perhaps with some unfortunate disabilities - and surrounded by illiterate mountain bigots in some Russian backwater.
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Oh how awful, but I'm sure her descendents are glad to finally have confirmation that their great great grandmother was human. That poor woman, the thought of the torture she endured.
 
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Is this "black Russian" stuff somehow controversial? I don't see any reason to doubt that some Africans were traded as slaves to Russian aristocracy. Why couldn't Zana (if there ever was such a woman) simply have been a descendant of African slaves? She could have been developmentally disabled and non-verbal. She could have been ostracized by her family due to her disability and raised as an animal. Maybe she was even some sideshow attraction in her youth, who knows? None of those things, however, would make her a bigfoot.
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You are absolutely right, she could have simply been abandoned as a child born to a slave, left in the Russian woods, and some how managed to survive to adulthood.
 
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Very interesting, and very sad too. The poor woman......

Well done to Sharon Hill, again. Not sure how you scooped the show so far in advance, but well done. Don't forget your friends over at Sasquatch Forum......there'll be questions.

Interesting speculation about possible alternative origins to the escaped slave theory, too. A possible earlier migration out of Africa is mentioned, which sounds improbable, but interesting nonetheless.

So all of you people who have invested so much in Sykes in the hopes he'll confirm your sighting or whatever, it's time for a good hard re-think. Two years and lots of money has gone into collecting and examining the best evidence that bigfootery has got, that yeti hunters have, and that the Russians have. This is one of the leading scientists in the world, who has put his reputation in harms way (just read this thread!) to see if you have anything at all. What did he find?: not a single hint of anything mysterious-hominid-like whatsoever in the whole saga. You aren't being honest with yourselves if you just carry on regardless with the belief stuff. Who are you going to invest your hopes in now? Moneymaker? Yeah righto..... That guy who's duped you 2 or 3 times before and has a dead one locked away somewhere right now? OK, it's your money, I guess.

Give it up, people. The game's over.
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From what I've observed so far, enthusiasts are merely twisting the data to suit their agenda:

Sykes is saving his bigfoot/almasty/yeti revelations for his paper; he's proven bigfoot/almasty/yeti is a human through the Zana story; the government(s) are covering up DNA results; Icon films has an anti-bigfoot slant; and of course, "I seen one!"
 
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