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lpetrich - we've been looking at the topic in another thread. The bizarre thing to me is why he really said nothing further about the samples when they were in such need of explanation. Chain of custody. In the first place, how about having a scientific mind when people are bringing you "Bigfoot DNA". Shouldn't that arouse our curiosity a little bit?

It's not like science is free from hoaxing. Piltdown man, the Cardiff Giant, and on my wife's Island of Mindanao there was a really famous one - The Tasaday Tribe. A government official fabricated the existence of a stone-age tribe, making it all the way to the cover of National Geographic. He ran off with millions of dollars given to him for a foundation to "protect" them.

Those two examples of extinct polar bear DNA showing up in such distant places, etc... oh, nothing to see here. :rolleyes:
 
LTC8K6 said:
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/c...ian-wants-cash-to-sequence-nephilim-giant-dna


Creationist "Bigfoot" Veterinarian Wants Cash to Sequence Nephilim "Giant" DNA
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Thank you for the link LTC8K6.

Quite illuminating about Melba Ketchum.
Up until now I always thought of Melba as an attention seeking opportunist.
It appears she has jumped the shark and missed reality completely.
Bigfoot as a lover/rapist?
And.......Bigfoot has some angel DNA.
:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

I wonder if this would change anyone's mind about her ability to.......
No, probably not.
:boxedin:
 
wicked_ways said:
Thank you for the link LTC8K6.

Quite illuminating about Melba Ketchum.
Up until now I always thought of Melba as an attention seeking opportunist.
It appears she has jumped the shark and missed reality completely.
Bigfoot as a lover/rapist?
And.......Bigfoot has some angel DNA.
:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

I wonder if this would change anyone's mind about her ability to.......
No, probably not.
:boxedin:
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If someone agrees with you about the important things most people will ignore the fact that they are completely crazy.
 
I think Melba is part believer, part con woman, and all opportunist. She will be whatever she needs to be to sell her current project. I do think most cons know they are cons, but Melba believes, at least enough to support her actions. She's special.
 
lpetrich said:
  • Himalayas: polar bear, serow (goat-like ungulate)
  • Russia: brown bear, bovine, horse, raccoon, American black bear
  • Sumatra: Malaysian tapir (piglike odd-toed ungulate)
  • US: American black bear, canid (wolf/coyote/dog), mule deer, bovine, sheep, horse, North American porcupine, raccoon, human
There was only one human hair sample in the entire set, which is a credit to these samples' collectors.

Polar bears in the Himalayas? They could have been the closest sampled relatives of some Himalayan bears.

Raccoons and American black bears in Russia? Were those introduced animals or were some samples accidentally mixed up?
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Raccoons were introduced to Northern Russia back in the 60's. Asian black bears are a sister taxa for the American black bear, maybe the degradation of the samples had something to do with that result. You can e-mail Dr. Sykes directly and ask......
 
I found this curious:

Bryan Sykes book on his DNA research on the yeti will be entitled, in the British edition: THE YETI ENIGMA: A DNA Detective Story.

The American edition will have this title: THE NATURE OF THE BEAST: The first scientific evidence for the survival of apemen into modern times

The book was originally to be published this month, if I remember, and is now set for January next year.
 
jerrywayne said:
I found this curious:

Bryan Sykes book on his DNA research on the yeti will be entitled, in the British edition: THE YETI ENIGMA: A DNA Detective Story.

The American edition will have this title: THE NATURE OF THE BEAST: The first scientific evidence for the survival of apemen into modern times

The book was originally to be published this month, if I remember, and is now set for January next year.
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It looks like two different marketing strategies for two different markets. One strategy looks as if it might be disingenuous.

Unless there is new information about Zana and Khwit.
 
Resume said:
It looks like two different marketing strategies for two different markets. One strategy looks as if it might be disingenuous.

Unless there is new information about Zana and Khwit.
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I thought the same thing too. Then I realized I had no information suggesting THE YETI ENIGMA was about the ancient bear hypothesis, which is what I was assuming.

We will have to wait and see, but you are right about the apparent disingenuous market ploy.
 
jerrywayne said:
I found this curious:

Bryan Sykes book on his DNA research on the yeti will be entitled, in the British edition: THE YETI ENIGMA: A DNA Detective Story.

The American edition will have this title: THE NATURE OF THE BEAST: The first scientific evidence for the survival of apemen into modern times

The book was originally to be published this month, if I remember, and is now set for January next year.
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Science research stuff is mostly published in scientific peer-reviewed journals. There's a whole hierarchy of journals, ranging from those for the top articles with amazing results obtained with the last generation gadgets and gizmos to those oriented towards the run-of-the-mill commoners and peasants in white coats. Books in science are for teatching (undergraduation and post grad levels) and reviews about a certain topic. They are not the media one would expect a scientist to announce an important discovery.

Sykes' wrote a book and a book is not the propper scientific media for announcing living apemen... Something like this would be published in a top-ranking journal.

Sooooooooo, here are the possible reasons (yeah, there may be more):
1. Move along, nothing extraordinary to see here. Its the bear DNA stuff plus something on DNA from people believed to be part apemen by footers being a bit odd but not completely unexpected or unheard. All this packed in some propaganda promote sales of the book, angling for footers included. Book publication was delayed by some SNAFU reason.
2. Groundbreaking stuff is being reviewed for publication in some top-rank science journal; some delays were experienced and the article should be available online January. Book publication was intentionally delayed to avoid leaks.

Take your pick. I'll stick with (1).
 
Correa Neto said:
Science research stuff is mostly published in scientific peer-reviewed journals. There's a whole hierarchy of journals, ranging from those for the top articles with amazing results obtained with the last generation gadgets and gizmos to those oriented towards the run-of-the-mill commoners and peasants in white coats. Books in science are for teatching (undergraduation and post grad levels) and reviews about a certain topic. They are not the media one would expect a scientist to announce an important discovery.

Sykes' wrote a book and a book is not the propper scientific media for announcing living apemen... Something like this would be published in a top-ranking journal.

Sooooooooo, here are the possible reasons (yeah, there may be more):
1. Move along, nothing extraordinary to see here. Its the bear DNA stuff plus something on DNA from people believed to be part apemen by footers being a bit odd but not completely unexpected or unheard. All this packed in some propaganda promote sales of the book, angling for footers included. Book publication was delayed by some SNAFU reason.
2. Groundbreaking stuff is being reviewed for publication in some top-rank science journal; some delays were experienced and the article should be available online January. Book publication was intentionally delayed to avoid leaks.

Take your pick. I'll stick with (1).
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If 1. is correct, then the subtitle of the American edition is dishonest.

I can't imagine the second option is the true one.

Here is a possibility -- although the book is listed on Amazon USA as I mentioned, that could be a tentative title meant to stoke interest in the book by Bigfoot enthusiasts. If the publishers keep that title, then it would be false advertising.

Unless, as Resume suggested, this may have something to do with Zena and son. Then the evidence may not be conclusive enough for a scientific journal, but good enough to float in a book for the general public (as long as Sykes' doesn't step too far over the line, scientifically.)
 
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