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Merged BBC WTC7 Programme

look-up said:
Has anyone ever published any analysis of how the fires might have been started?

I'm no fire engineer, but could the flaming debris from an exploding jetliner have played a part?
 
look-up @ LCF said:
Has anyone ever published any analysis of how the fires might have been started?

Fire needs three things, fuel, oxygen and heat. The heat comes from the carbon and hydrogen in the fuel breaking their bonds and remaking them with the oxygen. This causes a net release of energy. Energy manifests itself as radiation heat and increase in the vibration of the materials in the fire.

Fire is just a self sustaining reaction where the heat turns the fuel into gas and provides enough energy to break the bonds in the fuel and let it react with the oxygen.
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Good enough analysis?
 
In fact, Jowenko asked before watching the film: "Do you see a fire above somewhere? I see smoke everywhere." The translation gets a little choppy, but it seems that his interviewer says something that is not translated.
Jowenko asks "Do you see a fire above somewhere?", and the interviewer says "I see smoke however."
 
It was good enough for me not to debate WTC7 again. I'll just refer to this document from now on.

Thanks to everyone involved in the making of this.
 
*Bumb*

Rather than start a new thread I decided to bumb this one up. I am sure It as been discussed to death but I would like to express my opinions of this program, which I watched with my wife and in part the rest of my family.

It is worth pointing out that I recorded this program when it was first broadcast and tonight we viewed it for the first time.

To be honest it was something we watched simply to pass time and although I had an interest I was more interested in gauging opinions of those around me that had who to be frank, had no interest in this topic.

My children, quickly lost interest in this program and drifted out of the room but my wife who as never shown any interest whosoever in this topic continued to watch it with me. In fact she was quite absorbed in it. I never said a word and decided, as you do, to allow anybody to make their own opinions of the arguments put forward.

It was towards the end of the program when the argument was finally lost for the truthers. It was lost by Dylan Avery who against a background of almost reason and sensibility started "****ing this, ****ing that and he is a ****ing liar etc.."

At that point any form of reason, sympathy and understanding was gone. The one person, my wife, who had watched this program with me, simply lost all interest in the topic.

All I can say, in summary, is although I could see straight through the nonsense that was presented by the likes of Gage ,Jones and co, it is when you allow a fool like Avery,who does nothing other than look stupid and somehow pretend he is an expert on matters that he as clearly no understanding of,to say something that your aims are lost.

Avery, if you ever read this, you simply blew it, big style, on national TV, in front of the biggest audience you will ever get. I now have the satisfaction of knowing that one of the self styled leaders of the TM is nothing more than a complete and utter, foul mouthed idiot.My wife summed it up in the simplistic of terms.

“ Idiot”.

The utter nonsense that their "experts” had, fell on deaf ears the moment Avery started speaking. If this guy is what they look to for leadership and guidance then heaven help them.
 
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It is worth pointing out that I recorded this program when it was first broadcast and tonight we viewed it for the first time.

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My wife summed it up in the simplistic of terms.

“ Idiot”.

Not 'Wanker'? I am not impressed by the unBritishness of your wife! :D
 
One of the "30 points Truthers should be happy about re: The Third Tower" by Kevin Barrett:

22) Dylan Avery has a great put-down of Richard Clark -- a classic, blunt, and to the point call-out.
 
Wow, just stumbled over the documentary. That was great stuff
with all my heroes in it. So is this WTC7 thingy settled by now?
 

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