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Merged BBC WTC7 Programme

That was something new to me as well and I couldn't stop thinking about facepalming.
I was doing that to my computer screen... there's so much video that confirms the smoke from WTC 7 that saying it came from one of the other buildings is moot... it's self debunking... I'm not sure where Gage got his high off of claiming that but it's in-your-face material like that which initially made me stay away from the TM in the first place, and part of why I'm still not remotely convinced now.

I do like that the BBC put some attention on WTC 5 though, because it suffered an interior failure due to connection failures and shows photos of connection point samples which show that the steel had entered a very plastic state. It's not just the beams that failed, the connections were equally if not more susceptible...
 
I also liked Loizeaux's Bob Newhart-like response to the question, could a building be wired for controlled demos without anybody noticing: "Only in a movie, starring Bruce Willis."

I laughed out loud when he said that!
 
I also liked Loizeaux's Bob Newhart-like response to the question, could a building be wired for controlled demos without anybody noticing: "Only in a movie, starring Bruce Willis."

I laughed out loud when he said that!

Yes, fine, but you just know that, somewhere in Hollywood, a producer/ director/ writer (whoever does this stuff) is thinking very seriously right now.
 
Yes, fine, but you just know that, somewhere in Hollywood, a producer/ director/ writer (whoever does this stuff) is thinking very seriously right now.
Wonder if it will be another Air Panic, The Matrix, Independence Day, Armageddon, Enemy Of The State, that the idiotic truth movement will claim gives hints to the "script" used on 9/11.
 
Only appears as if? To me it didn't only appear as if, he just did say it like that.

Don't put words in my mouth.

In the video Gage says "You don't say 'we made the decision to pull it' to blah blah blah" I am being generous in saying that maybe he got the quote mixed up.

But really, I wouldn't put it past him to try and pass the botched quote up as fact.
 
That was a great mini-speech from Daniel Nigro at the end. I wish I was that eloquent.
 
Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm not?! :confused::eye-poppi

In the video Gage says "You don't say 'we made the decision to pull it' to blah blah blah" I am being generous in saying that maybe he got the quote mixed up.

But really, I wouldn't put it past him to try and pass the botched quote up as fact.

Just imagine they didn't show the original interview part with Silverstein. Then you pretty much got this:

"I ask, every viewer, to come to their own conclusion, about the language Larry's using and the emphasis. My personal response to his comment is that he was, uh, involved in a decision to, to uh, bring the building down - but, uh, who knows, what he was thinking or saying. This is just speculation. And you don't say 'We made the decision to pull it', which refers to something. You wouldn't say that about a group of fire (sic). You would say 'we made a decision to pull them out of the building'"
 
At the end of the show, Lieutenant Frank Papalia said

"I think they have no respect for all the friends of mine that I lost, for all the people that died that day, it's like a slap in their face."

However, I don't believe any firemen were lost in WTC 7, so this quote seems to be cherry-picked in order to cast aspersions on WTC7 conspiracy claimants. (To be sure, all of these will be 911 Conspiracy claimants, but the show's focus is about WTC 7.) I don't think that's showing respect for Lieutenant Papalia, even if he feels that way, personally. Besides the cherry-picking aspect, I can't help wonder about the placement of this segment at the very end of the show. Is that because this is what we are supposed to remember, above all else? Is this simply a propaganda ploy?

Furthermore, although I thought the program was balanced, if I was an honest investigative journalist I would have certainly re-interviewed Jowenko, showed him the clips of Loizeaux, and then asked for a response. An EXPERT response. Why didn't BBC do this?

The question of the sound and window-shattering effects of CD explosives is raised. But, unfortunately, the question of the sound associated with various formulations of nano-thermite detonations, of different intensities, is not discussed in the program. This is a technical question, but one which the BBC, which obviously had some kind of budget, could have pursued. Apparently, they either didn't think of it, didn't try, or tried and failed. I can't tell from watching the program, can you?

I also have questions as how many firemen were even in the building, since, as the program showed, the collapses caused failures in the water system. Are firemen in the habit of rambling through a building, with either no water-supplied firehoses, or else an insufficient amount of them? I should think not. Therefore, a serious investigative reporter would have asked such rather obvious questions, and tried to quantifiy the amount of water that was applied to the building, especially from the inside, vs. what was necessary. That would have provided some type of cross-check as to how many firemen were inside the building, or at least how many would have made sense to be inside the building. The question of how many firemen were inside the building is non-trivial, since if the building was jury-rigged quickly on 9/11 for CD, large numbers of them might well have seen CD artifacts. The NIST guy, Dr. Shyam Sunder, gave what I thought was a rather disingenous argument, when he pointed out that a column which has lost structural integrity can fail quickly.

Duh.

The question is, how could ENOUGH of the columns fail so quickly that a symmetrical collapse is produced. There's a large time span, so perhaps some kind of argument could be made that sequential losses of columns' structural integrity occurred relatively slowly, but that a critical number was attained only over a brief time span. Why was the BBC not astute enough to ask a rather obvious question of Dr. Sunder? Especially since they interview ae911truth's Kamal Obeid, a structural engineer, who expresses doubt that simultaneous collapse of all columns is possible, even if local failures of one or two are not. Instead, they have incorporated a non-explanation explanation into their show.

If we had wanted that, we could have just asked the government - they're just full of non-explanations!

Perhaps the best example of how non-critical the BBC program was is when they showed Dr. Gene Corley. Dr. Gene Corley tells us that evidence for controlled demolition was looked for, but no details are provided. Oh, heck, why would the BBC want to bother Dr. Corley for such details, just because they're doing a show on WTC 7 CD claims?

In sum, the BBC program was balanced, but of questionable fairness, as it was unquestionably non-critical. (In fairness, I note that it could have been more critical of the CD proponents, also.)

Reading from you post, the BBC obviously had a mindset when they made this.
 
My only quibble is that they made it seem as though Barry Jennings was alone. I would have liked to have seen an interview with Mike Hess.

Could Dylan have made himself look any more like a spoiled petulant child?

ETA: He's an "angry little boy."
 
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The original BBC documentary of not even 18 months ago introduced Dylan as having a queue at his door of people interested in his filmmaking talents. Funny how things (haven't) panned out for him since.
 
The original BBC documentary of not even 18 months ago introduced Dylan as having a queue at his door of people interested in his filmmaking talents. Funny how things (haven't) panned out for him since.
Apparently the queue is there but it is 0 people and anyway Dylan ran away to San Diego which in retrospect is a really good idea.
 
Dylan has reported, remember, that a major company is interested in his next film.

This often is actually revealed to be a 'friend of a friend of a friend' situation.
 
Dylan has reported, remember, that a major company is interested in his next film.

This often is actually revealed to be a 'friend of a friend of a friend' situation.

and usually a STRAIGHT to DVD type of film, like Wargames 2 (Wargames: The Dead Code) and Starship Troopers 3 (yes, these movies exist)
 

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