Merged BBC WTC7 Programme

[metamars]

You're assuming that the only thing firemen do is fight fires. There's also the extremely important role of search and rescue, and in an emergency one could imagine that firemen would carry that out even in the face of inadequate supplies of water. That will, of course, at times lead to the deaths of said firemen in the attempt to save the lives of others, which is why we tend to accord them an extraordinary measure of respect.

Dave

Interviews could reveal how many firemen were involved in search and rescue, how many of the rooms did they actually enter, were they in a position, location-wise and smoke-wise, to see CD implements if they were there, and undisguised, etc.

We have now had an 'official' BBC program on WTC 7, and what new knowledge was gained on this score?

Now that I think about it, wouldn't taking down a skyscraper in NYC make for a spectacular terrorist action? Of course, they'd want it to fall over, not come straight down. I find it hard to believe that counter terrorism people haven't addressed the question of how to conceal CD implements, which could be positioned over time, surreptitiously. Did BBC bother to ask counter terrorism people? Not even Jack Bauer?

I doubt that CT (counter terrorism) people would give out this information, but they might have been willing to give out yes/no type information as to it's plausibility. Was the BBC curious enough to ask them, or was Loizeaux the only expert they thought worth talking to? Loizeaux, of course, does not need to conceal his work.

 

[e^n]

Interviews could reveal how many firemen were involved in search and rescue, how many of the rooms did they actually enter, were they in a position, location-wise and smoke-wise, to see CD implements if they were there, and undisguised, etc.

There are several hundred firefighter accounts available to read. Many of them do talk about their locations within WTC7 and the damage they observed.

We have now had an 'official' BBC program on WTC 7, and what new knowledge was gained on this score?

In what context can you possibly use 'official'?

Now that I think about it, wouldn't taking down a skyscraper in NYC make for a spectacular terrorist action? Of course, they'd want it to fall over, not come straight down. I find it hard to believe that counter terrorism people haven't addressed the question of how to conceal CD implements, which could be positioned over time, surreptitiously. Did BBC bother to ask counter terrorism people? Not even Jack Bauer?

Terrorists can use suicide bombers, suicide bombers are a far more effective and cheap method of causing absolute terror than destroying a building. Such a thing is not guaranteed and would result only in massive increases in building security. People still have to go to work whether they like it or not, and high rises cannot be abandoned. In the extreme this would just mean a city spreads out slightly more over time.

I really doubt it would be a good tactic for spreading terror, but then again I am no terrorism expert, only offering my opinion.

 

[Blender Head]

I doubt that CT (counter terrorism) people would give out this information, but they might have been willing to give out yes/no type information as to it's plausibility.

Would you believe them?

 

[Blender Head]

You can watch what he says in the 20th minute.
They show a bit of "9/11 Mysteries" as an introduction, then the interview part with Silverstein and Gage comes on afterwards: "I ask, every viewer, to come to their own conclusion, about the language Larry's using and the emphasis [Silverstein interview part]. My personal response to his comment is that he was, uh, involved in a decision to, to uh, bring the building down - but, uh, who knows, what he was thinking or saying. This is just speculation."

The documentary talks about the leasing and insurance, Gage comes back on: "And you don't say 'We made the decision to pull it', which refers to something. You wouldn't say that about a group of fire (sic). You would say 'we made a decision to pull them out of the building'"

I think that's all from him, so yea, he does say that again later on.

Gotcha, thanks. I went back to watch it and it does appear as if Tricky Dick is saying that Larry said "We made the decision to pull it..."

How dishonest.

 

[~enigma~]

I just rewatched part of the video and I fell of my chair after Gage commited career hari-kari by saying the smoke wasn't from WTC 7. Wonder if he ever watched any videos?

 

[cludgie]

I just rewatched part of the video and I fell of my chair after Gage commited career hari-kari by saying the smoke wasn't from WTC 7.

If that was career Hari Kari then what was the cardboard box stunt on Hardfire? Playing Russian Roulette with a loaded single barrel shotgun?

 

[~enigma~]

If that was career Hari Kari then what was the cardboard box stunt on Hardfire? Playing Russian Roulette with a loaded single barrel shotgun?

it was akin to cutting the head off a dead vampire....just assures they stay dead

 

[mrbaracuda]

Gotcha, thanks. I went back to watch it and it does appear as if Tricky Dick is saying that Larry said "We made the decision to pull it..."

How dishonest.

Only appears as if? To me it didn't only appear as if, he just did say it like that.

 

[BenBurch]

Truthers just don't understand arguing in the alternative, do they?

We say; We don't believe there were bodies there, but if there were bodies there, this could be a reason why... And then they come back and say "You said there were bodies there and you said why they were there!" But the truth is that we FIRST said that there were no bodies. (In fact I called the fellow who said he thought there were bodies a liar.) BUT we then argued the case as though there were to show that even IF there were, it was not material to any argument of "inside job."

Lawyers do this every day.

I don't think there are any truthers who are smart enough to be good lawyers.

 

[nicepants]

... only to be out done by Dylan Avey's f-bombs.

I thought you were kidding about that. haha That was pretty funny. Angry Dylan clearly went into the interview with the assumption that the BBC would be creating a "hit piece". It turned out to be pretty fair to the CTers, though.

 

[Brian Pears]

I thought you were kidding about that. haha That was pretty funny. Angry Dylan clearly went into the interview with the assumption that the BBC would be creating a "hit piece". It turned out to be pretty fair to the CTers, though.

The BBC gave the CTers just enough rope to hang themselves - and they dutifully did just that. Avery, Jones et al came over as the idiots they undoubtedly are.

 

[~enigma~]

The BBC gave the CTers just enough rope to hang themselves - and they dutifully did just that. Avery, Jones et al came over as the idiots they undoubtedly are.

Steven Jones. The moron writes that jesus walked north America and claims he had archaeological proof. I thought he was a nut then but after watching him say with glazed eyes that the dust was calling out to him and that it has a memory ala homeopathic water plus his Vincent Price "laugh"...We witnessed the meltdown of the truth movement and it was televised

 

[mrbaracuda]

Steven Jones. The moron writes that jesus walked north America and claims he had archaeological proof.

One forgets so easily. Is he a mor(m)on?

 

[Oxigen]

Steven Jones. The moron writes that jesus walked north America and claims he had archaeological proof. I thought he was a nut then but after watching him say with glazed eyes that the dust was calling out to him and that it has a memory ala homeopathic water plus his Vincent Price "laugh"...We witnessed the meltdown of the truth movement and it was televised

I watched the programme and really don't recall that at all. I think your comments are insulting and boring. You are far from being enigmatic but I would recommend an enema. Might clear up a few things.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

I finally started watching the documentary and am about 40 minutes into it... Gage is trying to say that negative pressures brought in smoke and dust from WTC 5 & 6.... wow....just WOW.... the videos don't show that at all... the smoke was coming out of WTC 7....

 

[ComsatAngel2017]

The BBC gave the CTers just enough rope to hang themselves - and they dutifully did just that. Avery, Jones et al came over as the idiots they undoubtedly are.

You, sir, define the whole Conspiracy Theory programme in two sentences; two pithy and relevant sentences. Cue endless, months-long shrieking from Twoofers!

 

[boloboffin]

I have to agree on this odd attitude of Steven Jones. He believes he's got proof of governmental collusion in unfathomable treason. And yet he's grinning like a naughty kid that just lifted his teacher's skirt and exposed her underwear to the class. It's so inappropriate.

At least Richard Gage gets hacked off about what he's saying. As loopy as the things he is saying are, at least he's responding appropriately for what he believes.

 

[mrbaracuda]

I finally started watching the documentary and am about 40 minutes into it... Gage is trying to say that negative pressures brought in smoke and dust from WTC 5 & 6.... wow....just WOW.... the videos don't show that at all... the smoke was coming out of WTC 7....

That was something new to me as well and I couldn't stop thinking about facepalming.

 

[~enigma~]

I watched the programme and really don't recall that at all. I think your comments are insulting and boring. You are far from being enigmatic but I would recommend an enema. Might clear up a few things.

The paper he wrote about jesus was before he got involved with the moronic truth movement. If you watched the program and didn't see his maniacal laugh, grin and stupidity about the dust calling his name, then there are two possibilities. You fell asleep during his segment or you are lying through your teeth...which is it?

 

[Oxigen]

The paper he wrote about jesus was before he got involved with the moronic truth movement. If you watched the program and didn't see his maniacal laugh, grin and stupidity about the dust calling his name, then there are two possibilities. You fell asleep during his segment or you are lying through your teeth...which is it?

I really think you need help.