Avoiding Win 11 and staying with 10

[novaphile]

Perhaps, I don't know.

I'm sure that all Linux users have been using Linux forever and there has never, ever been a problem with the OS as long as the system has been around. I'm sure all of the forums and reddit posts about all of the issues that have been reported by users can be chalked up completely and entirely to user error. The systems, all of them in their entirety, are created, updated, and executed flawlessly.

What a fool I've been to use both windows and Linux, instead of only Linux.

I think I've probably avoided that kind of thing by using debian (stable).

People who use more difficult flavours (Gentoo for example) or like to be on the 'cutting edge' or worse yet, run 'franken builds' where they mix and match things from multiple distributions, probably have a much fiddlier time.

 

[Wudang]

Some people just lead a charmed life. I even once met someone who said MacAfee AV didn't screw up his PC!

 

[Wudang]

So not long after posting I glanced at my phone, blank screen. No response. Give it a nudge and get the iPhone restore screen. An update had started while not plugged in and had crashed.
Okay, volume up, down, hold. Back to restore screen.
Plug into my Mac as per instructions, connect via cable and start Finder - nothing.
An hour and many tries later I've now installed the Apple Devices app on my Windows screen which can see the bastard and is now downloading the update to apply it.
I try not to hit the booze on a weeknight but this mug of oolong tea is not quite doing the business.

 

[Wudang]

And now my Windows laptop is telling me "Your device will restart to update outside of active hours" Well it's not supposed to be but it is bloody active hours now, smartass.

 

[bruto]

I never bothered to hide the taskbar, so didn't know what it would do. I just tried it. My current version opens both taskbar and start menu with one hit of the windows key, and closing the start menu hides the taskbar. I have no idea why they feel the two must be combined. I leave the taskbar on, and have little love for the Win 11 start menu.

So far Win 11 has not had any update failures or stalls.

 

[bruto]

Some people just lead a charmed life. I even once met someone who said MacAfee AV didn't screw up his PC!

It may depend on how you use it. I knew an elderly couple, who despite having come very late to computers at all, did pretty well, and used Windows ME without many problems! Microsoft should have sent them a medal. Then again, someone once gave me an HP laptop running Vista, and I used it for a few years without mishaps! It did eventually give up the ghost altogether, because I suppose it did not want to scuttle HP's reputation, but Windows Vista actually did sort of work.

 

[Mongrel]

but Windows Vista actually did sort of work.

I used it fine for a while on my personal system but I think a lot of the perceived problems were manufacturers chucking minimum spec machines out of the door with "Windows Vista Ready!" stickers on them and people, rightly, expecting them to work smoothly with all the pre-enabled bells & whistles on
That and I waited till SP1

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I'm in the habit of hiding the taskbar from back in the days when laptops had lower resolution screens and I resented giving up space to toolbars and frames and other clutter. I can remember realising whatever thing I was working on felt like a postage stamp because of all the crap surrounding it and something snapped. It still bugs me to waste screen space on stuff I don't need.

 

[Mongrel]

I'm in the habit of hiding the taskbar from back in the days when laptops had lower resolution screens and I resented giving up space to toolbars and frames and other clutter. I can remember realising whatever thing I was working on felt like a postage stamp because of all the crap surrounding it and something snapped. It still bugs me to waste screen space on stuff I don't need.

It can also help if you have a monitor that's susceptible to burn-in

 

[commandlinegamer]

I'm in the habit of hiding the taskbar from back in the days when laptops had lower resolution screens and I resented giving up space to toolbars and frames and other clutter. I can remember realising whatever thing I was working on felt like a postage stamp because of all the crap surrounding it and something snapped. It still bugs me to waste screen space on stuff I don't need.

Back in the day I used fvwm or mwm on Slackware, which gave you nothing almost else on screen other than what your RC file started up - most commonly an xterm or two, though IIRC there with the former there was the option to use fvwmbuttons, launchers for one or two common programs. The first monitor I had only did 800x600 so used a larger virtual desktop which scrolled further off-screen.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Back in the day I used fvwm or mwm on Slackware, which gave you nothing almost else on screen other than what your RC file started up - most commonly an xterm or two, though IIRC there with the former there was the option to use fvwmbuttons, launchers for one or two common programs. The first monitor I had only did 800x600 so used a larger virtual desktop which scrolled further off-screen.

While I got the gist of that, I also feel I now have a sense of what it's like to be a labrador whose owner is explaining something to it.

 

[plague311]

While I got the gist of that, I also feel I now have a sense of what it's like to be a labrador whose owner is explaining something to it.

I work in I.T. and I'm completely lost lol.

https://imgur.com/a/Ny6UoX3

 

[Wudang]

Back in the day he used 2 different window managers (fvwm - bit windows like) and mwm (Motif) on the Slackware Linux distro. Most commonly a "green screen" session. His virtual desktop was bigger than his monitor showed so he scrolled to see the rest.
I'll spare my description of my lovely xStation and CDE and the ease of editting dtwmrc.

 

[novaphile]

Back in the day he used 2 different window managers (fvwm - bit windows like) and mwm (Motif) on the Slackware Linux distro. Most commonly a "green screen" session. His virtual desktop was bigger than his monitor showed so he scrolled to see the rest.
I'll spare my description of my lovely xStation and CDE and the ease of editting dtwmrc.

I used to do a version of that with a work linux computer (Novell Suse).

I had the centre screen surrounded by 8 virtual screens (a fairly standard config, 3 on the top, 3 on the bottom, and 1 on each side) and configured the different screens for different tasks.

It used to drive the 'microsoft heads' mental.

There was even a nifty little icon on the bottom of the screen to show what virtual desktop you were in.

 

[commandlinegamer]

At the time c. 1997, Windows 95 was you might argue a desktop environment (or shell).

Linux distributions didn't have a completely unified equivalent at that point. Commercial UNIX offerings had the likes of the Common Desktop Environment (CDE) which wasn't freely available (as in cost, or in source code terms).

In linux you could run graphical programs using a window manager, which controlled window placement and size on screen, and which included the ability to configure menus for selecting non-command line programs. You also had a couple of rudimentary file managers.

These days the choice is a bit more sophisticated, but I still prefer a lighter desktop without unnecessary bells and whistles.