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Merged Anthrax Case Solved?

Amazing that he was allowed to work in an anthrax laboratory, in view of these claims!!

Agreed. There are a lot of places this guy should not be allowed. However.....

Evereybody, including the FBI, makes it sound like you have to be an expert in anthrax microbiology to get access to the stuff. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Anthrax is present in the environment and there are regular outbreaks on captive herds of cattle, and within the past few days, a herd of bison in Montana owned by Ted Turner. Yes that Ted Turner. You can find the white powdery spoors of anthrax attacking dead animals like elephants and other large mammals all over Africa. Anyone can scrape it up and use it as a bio-weapon. So in short any farm hand, bush walker/hunter or even Ted Turner or his vet can obtain anthrax if they wanted to. How many lunatics might that number include?

ANTHRAX, BISON - USA (MONTANA)
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Date: 31 Jul 2008
Source: Bozeman Daily Chronicle
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/articles/2008/07/31/news/20anthrax.txt


Anthrax kills 25 bison on Turner's Flying D
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An outbreak of the infectious disease anthrax has killed 25 domestic
bison on Ted Turner's Flying D Ranch near the mouth of the Gallatin
Canyon, Montana Department of Livestock officials said Wednesday [30
Jul 2008].

"Laboratory tests confirmed anthrax late this morning," state
veterinarian Dr. Marty Zaluski said. "The outbreak has been contained
to a single, fully enclosed pasture, and we are aggressively
addressing the situation with full cooperation of the landowner." The
affected area has been quarantined.

"Anthrax can pop up any place at any time, but this outbreak was in a
remote, well-contained area," Zaluski said. "We're fortunate that the
landowner recognized the disease early and took the appropriate
action."

The vet handling the case is being optimistic and refusing to vaccinate
The remainder of Turner’s lifestock. Some experts feel he is risking spread of the disease by not advising vaccination. See below.

"Vaccination for livestock in the area is always an option, but we're
not recommending it at this time," Zaluski said.

For more information, visit

http://liv.mt.gov/liv/ah/diseases/anthrax/general.asp


The following comments came from promed@promedmail.org by e-mail
They are made by by Dr. Martin Hugh-Jones (MHJ) at LSU.

[I suspect that Dr. Zaluski might be being over optimistic while
trying to calm Montanan nerves. With this number of animals dying the
local horseflies will have had ample opportunity to feed on the sick,
moribund and dead and thus load up their mouthparts with contaminated
blood and spores. The usual threshold number for local spread is 4-7
dead cows, so 25 is way over the odds. As female tabanids (flies) can easy fly 8 kms [5 miles] between blood snacks, spread to neighbouring herds of cattle is always possible and is seen not infrequently, cf the starting situations in South and North Dakota in 2005 and in
northern Saskatchewan in 2006. (Owners of) Herds within 10 miles of these affected bison should be very strongly recommended to get their stock vaccinated ASAP if not sooner. - Mod.MHJ
 
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A few things.

It seems that a lot of people are surprised that they hadn't heard that this guy was a suspect, or that they think he has only become a suspect since he died. One of the things that is clear about the FBI is that they rarely name suspects in cases they are working. In this case they even refused to name Hatfill as a suspect despite the media doing so at Rosenberg's insitance. From the articles it would appear that Ivins has been on the FBI radar since the begining and that they have been closing in with him under constant survallance for over a year. Secondly, they rarely start Grand Juries without evidence and the Justice Department does not talk about Grand Juries and what they are doing. Back in the mid 90's Clinton's White House asked the Department of Justice if there was anything that they could extrodite Bin Laden form Sudan for. The DoJ replied that there was nothing they knew of despite the fact that they were running a Grand Jury to determine that very issue at the time the White House requested the information. Legally they were not allowed to even tell the President what they were doing. (in that case it resulted in the State Dept putting pressure on the Suddanese Govt and getting him kicked out of Sudan before the DoJ had their inditement and operation underway, if they could have told the WH what was happening, the State Dept wouldn't have needed to have been involved and the US would have had OBL even before the '97 Embassy Bombings.)
 
Very few people believe this latest suicide. I think they have gone one step too far.

Check out Glenn Greenwald - people who gave no credence to 9/11 truth are now questioning it in the wake of this latest revelation.
 
So any reasonable person will conclude the anthrax attack was an inside job.

I tend toward the "probably had the right guy this time" opinion.

There has long been the suspicion that this was an inside job: not that many people have access to antrax, and IIRC the strain matched one from a government lab. So this is not news.

And the rest ...

Any of you want to answer the questions I asked in post #15?

Or are you just going to ignore them?

And by the way, gdnp, the Ames strain is actually readily available around the world.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121478249006714421.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

The Anthrax Fiasco
June 30, 2008

... snip ...

In 2006, the FBI revised its assessment of the anthrax powder. While it was of exceptional purity and quality, scientists now say it lacked signs of the special milling process necessary for weaponization. In addition, the particular Ames strain of the anthrax used in the attacks – a clue seeming to point to a domestic source – has turned out to be far more common than originally believed, appearing in laboratories world-wide, including nations of the former Soviet Union.
 
Any of you want to answer the questions I asked in post #15?

Or are you just going to ignore them?
I'm going to ignore them. They are assertions made without evidence. I do not have time to research them.

And by the way, gdnp, the Ames strain is actually readily available around the world.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121478249006714421.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Thanks. See, you can actually contribute to the conversation if you try.

ETA: "far more common" is slightly different than "readily available".
 
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Originally Posted by BeAChooser
Any of you want to answer the questions I asked in post #15?

Or are you just going to ignore them?

I'm going to ignore them. They are assertions made without evidence. I do not have time to research them.

The evidence has been presented here at JREF many times. Were you just sleeping, gdnp? Are you only now starting to take an interest in this subject? Are you so uninformed in this matter that you didn't know the first case of anthrax showed up only a few miles from where the hijackers were staying in Florida? Did you really not hear that the doctor who treated skin conditions on Atta said in retrospect it was anthrax? Or that experts from John Hopkins concurred? And so on. Why, you must have been living in a cave for years and years. :D

http://pierrelegrand.net/2006/07/08...x-connection-and-the-fbi-info-suppression.htm

Mohamed Atta-Iraq-Anthrax Connection and the FBI info Suppression

... snip ...

BOCA RATON, Fla. — The editorial director of American Media says his company knows how the man killed by anthrax was exposed to the disease. He is also making scathing comments about the Palm Beach County Health department. Steve Coz, Editorial Director at American Media in Boca Raton, says that the company knows how the anthrax bacterium got into their building, and he says there is a connection to the terrorists.

... snip ...

The FBI has asked American Media not to go into detail about the letter, and they currently deny any connection between the letter and the terrorists involved in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Coz says he believes there is a connection, particularly to Mohamed Atta, the hijacker believed to be the leader of the terrorists who resided in South Florida. “We know Mohamed Atta was within three miles of the [American Media] building, we know he was within a mile of Bob Stevens house. We know that the FBI is now going to local pharmacies to see if he did in fact get Cipro. We know that he showed up at a pharmacy with red hands. There are people in this area who have very direct recollection of seeing him. He worked out in a gym where some of our employees were.”

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/16/112941.shtml

Anthrax: FBI Ignoring the Obvious
Philip V. Brennan
Thursday, Aug. 16, 2007

The anthrax attacks are one of those enduring mysteries that fade but never go away. Only in this case, there are plenty of leads that have been carefully ignored.

... snip ...

In August 2002, as part of a five-part series on the anthrax case, I wrote "FBI Rejects Link Between Anthrax, 9/11 Terrorists." I focused on the failure of the FBI to accept the convincing evidence that the attacks were linked to the 9/11 hijackers.

Here are some excerpts:

One of the most intriguing aspects of the FBI's anthrax investigation is the bureau's apparent disinterest at the presence of al-Qaida's Sept. 11 terrorists in the immediate vicinity of American Media Inc. (AMI) headquarters.

The bureau seems to reject out of hand the idea that these terrorists may well have been the source of the attack on AMI that killed one employee, almost killed another and sickened a third.

... snip ...

At least 15 of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers had Florida connections. Of the 19, three were in the country on expired visas, including Satam Al Suqami, who had a Florida driver's license listing a Boynton Beach address. Boynton Beach is a few miles north of Boca Raton and AMI.

In the summer, five suspected hijackers on the two planes that crashed into the World Trade Center – Mohamed Atta, Marwan Al-Shehhi, Wail M. Alshehri, Waleed M. Alshehri and Satam Al Suqami – bought one-month memberships at World's gyms. Atta and Al-Shehhi paid to work out at the Delray Beach gym, the others in Boynton Beach. Delray Beach adjoins Boca Raton.

... snip ...

Three of the hijackers, Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami and Hamza al Ghamdi, lived for several months in the Delray Racquet Club, a condominium complex a couple of miles from AMI's headquarters.

... snip ...

Several of the hijackers rented an apartment from a real estate agent who is the wife of the Sun's editor, Mike Irish. Four of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept. 11 tried to get government loans to finance their plots, including ringleader Mohamed Atta, who sought $650,000 to modify a crop duster, Johnelle Bryant, a U.S. Department of Agriculture loan officer, told ABC News.

... snip ...

According to Bryant, employed at the government agency for 16 years, Atta arrived in her office sometime between the end of April and the middle of May 2000, inquiring about a loan to finance an aircraft.

... snip ...

"He wanted to finance a twin-engine six-passenger aircraft … and remove the seats," said Bryant. "He said he was an engineer, and he wanted to build a chemical tank that would fit inside the aircraft and take up every available square inch of the aircraft except for where the pilot would be sitting."

This last takes on significance in view of a U.N. inspection report that Iraq's most effective bioweapons platform was a helicopter-borne aerosol generator that worked like an insecticide disseminator (perhaps this was intended for domestic use or against Iranian troops close to the Iraqi border). The disseminator was successfully field tested.

... snip ...

There is, for example, the extraordinary account by a Florida doctor revealed by the New York Times, which reported that the physician believes a man he treated in June had skin anthrax. That man was one of the Sept. 11 hijackers, suggesting a link between Osama bin Laden's terrorist group and the mailings.

According to the Times, two men identified themselves as pilots when they came to the emergency room of Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale in June 2001. One, Dr. Christos Tsonas recalled, had an ugly, dark lesion on his leg that he claimed he got from bumping into a suitcase two months earlier. The doctor said at the time he thought the injury was curious, but he cleaned it and prescribed an antibiotic for infection.

In the wake of 9/11, however, when federal investigators found the medicine among the possessions of one of the hijackers, Ahmed Alhaznawi, Dr. Tsonas reviewed the case and arrived at a new diagnosis. The lesion, he told the Times, "was consistent with cutaneous [skin] anthrax."

In a memo prepared by experts at the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies, and circulated among top government officials the group, which interviewed Dr. Tsonas, concluded that the anthrax diagnosis "raises the possibility that the hijackers were handling anthrax and were the perpetrators of the anthrax letter attacks."

... snip ...

The FBI discounts these facts, insisting that they have eliminated any connection between the the hijackers and the anthrax letter attacks but fail to explain why they have.

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/anthraxhijackerslink.html

Source: New York Times, March 23, 2002, Report Linking Anthrax and Hijackers Is Investigated, By WILLIAM J. BROAD and DAVID JOHNSTON, The two men identified themselves as pilots when they came to the emergency room of Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., last June. One had an ugly, dark lesion on his leg that he said he developed after bumping into a suitcase two months earlier. Dr. Christos Tsonas thought the injury was curious, but he cleaned it, prescribed an antibiotic for infection and sent the men away with hardly another thought. But after Sept. 11, when federal investigators found the medicine among the possessions of one of the hijackers, Ahmed Alhaznawi, Dr. Tsonas reviewed the case and arrived at a new diagnosis. The lesion, he said in an interview this week, "was consistent with cutaneous anthrax.[b/] ... snip ... a recent memorandum, prepared by experts at the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies, and circulated among top government officials, has renewed a debate about the evidence. The group, which interviewed Dr. Tsonas, concluded that the diagnosis of cutaneous anthrax, which causes skin lesions, was "the most probable and coherent interpretation of the data available." The memorandum added, "Such a conclusion of course raises the possibility that the hijackers were handling anthrax and were the perpetrators of the anthrax letter attacks."


Here's a link, no longer working and I don't want to take the time to figure out why or where the article might now be found, which quoted a Washington Post article:

http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/wp0328.html

Memo on Florida Case Roils Anthrax Probe

Experts Debate Theory Hijacker Was Exposed

By Steve Fainaru and Ceci Connolly

Washington Post Staff Writers

Friday, March 29, 2002; Page A03

In January, outside of formal channels, an FBI official asked biodefense experts at Johns Hopkins University to examine a curious lead in the federal government's investigation into last fall's anthrax attacks.

The experts were to evaluate the diagnosis of a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., emergency room physician who had treated one of the Sept. 11 hijackers last June. The physician, Christos Tsonas, initially thought the man had a minor infection, but after the wave of bioterrorist attacks he told the FBI that, in retrospect, he now believed the black lesion on the suspected hijacker's lower left leg was consistent with the skin form of anthrax.

The FBI official told the Hopkins experts, Tara O'Toole and Thomas V. Inglesby, he was concerned the FBI had not pursued the Florida case aggressively enough. The two-page memo they prepared is now circulating among senior government officials, and its findings have stirred up debate over their accuracy and the focus of the FBI's investigation, now in its sixth month.

O'Toole and Inglesby, who head the Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies, concluded that Tsonas's diagnosis of cutaneous anthrax was "the most probable and coherent interpretation of the data available." Since the contents of the memo became public last week, that conclusion has been endorsed by D.A. Henderson, the top bioterrorism official at the Department of Health and Human Services, and Richard Spertzel, who presided over the inspection of Iraq's bioweapons program as part of a United Nations team.

:D
 
Breaking conspiracy fodder at CNN right now...

Therapist: Researcher had 'homicidal plan'

An anthrax researcher who committed suicide this week had threatened his therapist and recently outlined a plan to kill his co-workers, according to court testimony. Therapist Jean C. Duley also testified last month that Bruce E. Ivins "was going to go out in a blaze of glory." full story

 
Beyond the Breach ... here is an interesting (lengthy) article/wrap up on the anthrax related containment breaches at Ft Detrick/USAMRID from a local newspaper:


What went wrong
By Alison Walker
News-Post Staff
awalker@fredericknewspost.com

FREDERICK — During a two-week period in April four years ago, officials at the Army’s lead biodefense laboratory at Fort Detrick discovered anthrax spores had escaped carefully guarded suites into the building’s unprotected areas.

The breach called into question the ability of the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases to keep its deadly agents within laboratory walls seven months after the terrorism attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and the anthrax mailings that autumn.

The 2002 incident was considered a containment breach because anthrax was found outside a containment suite, which is a group of laboratories and administrative rooms. USAMRIID uses strict security and sterilization methods to prevent the deadly agents stored inside from escaping.

Through a Freedom Of Information Act request, The Frederick News-Post obtained a 361-page report on the 2002 breach compiled by the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command, which oversees USAMRIID.


with much more at:

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/special_sections/detrick/day1.htm

So as I see this discussion so far there are three theories afloat as to who mailed the anthrax. One is that a scientist did it, first Hatfil and now the late, mentally disturbed Dr. Ivins. Two is that the 9-11 hijackers engineered it, from beyond their own fiery graves and three virtually anybody with access to the germ such as cowboys and farm hands including non-scientists which pretty much includes the whole wide world of nut cases.

Regarding Ivins’ suicide, I noticed someone asked about Tylenol#3 LD50.

The LD50 (lethal dose for %50) is 800mg in the average person. Death from codeine, unlike most opiates, includes restlessness, seizures and eventually death from respiratory arrest.
Some sources indicate that the lower-end LD50 may be around 500mg, so doses above 450mg are in the red zone.
Source - For more information on codeine, check out:
http://leda.lycaeum.org/Documents/Codeine_FAQ.11309.shtml

Each Tylenol #3, a prescription drug, contains 300 mgs of acetaminophen and 30 mgs of codeine.
Ivins would have had to swallow at least 15 tablets (these are large tablets by the way) or perhaps
as many as 25 or 28. Not impossible but could be uncomfortable until some of the codeine started to kick in. That many Tylenol#3s also risks serious liver compromise, toxicity and failure.

The LD50% in humans is an extrapolated/calculated number based on rat studies and is the number
of milligrams of codeine that kills 50% of a test series of animals which in this case are rats, not
people. The above URL goes into the LD50% of rats tested.
 
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http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-anthrax2-2008aug02,0,4558967.story

A financial motive for Ivins -- he had patents on two anthrax vaccines.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ivins3-2008aug03,0,3863335.story

His therapist got a restraining order against him on July 24, five days before his suicide. She says he told a group therapy session he was planning to kill his coworkers after learning of his impending indictment.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ivins3-2008aug03,0,3863335.story

I heard on KCRA that there is evidence linking Ivins to the anthrax. DNA analysis ties the anthrax to a particular storage item that they believe only Ivins had access to. The envelopes used in the mailings were evidently purchased at a postal center blocks from Fort Detrick and also Ivins' home. The therapist also said on KCRA that Ivins admitted to trying to kill people, possibly by poisoning, in 2001. (the attempt, not the admission).

I'm with some others here that are like WTF was this guy around anthrax for at all, and why wasn't he suspect no. 1 from the beginning?
 
I don't want to convict the man since I have no idea if he actually did it or not but if he did, it's not uncommon for people who've committed a serious crime and are about to be arrested to commit suicide. If arrested, he very well may have been charged with terrorism in addition to murder.

Seems odd to me that a man of his intelligence would commit suicide by Tylenol.

A slow, painful and miserable death. Kidneys, Liver shut down and are destroyed. Toxins and waste build up in your body. Don't think so!?
 
Two is that the 9-11 hijackers engineered it, from beyond their own fiery graves

First of all, why do you assume that the men who hijacked the planes were the only ones in America at the time or the only al-Qaeda in the plot? Isn't it likely that there were others supporting the plot? That's what the government seemed to think since they had a nation wide manhunt afterwords and did in fact find some evidence that there were helpers.

Second, why do you assume that the anthrax letter that killed the first person in Florida ... the one that worked a few miles from where the hijackers were staying ... was mailed after 9/11?

When did Stevens contract the anthrax? Some seem to think it happened on September 19th from a letter (the Lopez letter) sent to AMI. But when was the letter mailed and received? MSNBC quoted Newsweek (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3067576/site/newsweek/) saying that the Lopez letter arrived a week before 9/11.

This site, http://www.postalmag.com/editorial14.htm, dedicated to postal employees, also says that the Lopez letter arrived the 4th. Here's another site that says the 4th: http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/anthraxreport.htm.

Newsweek said they spoke to someone (unnamed) at AMI. And I've yet to find a source claiming the letter arrived on the 19th. Perhaps this might resolve the question: http://anthrax2001.blogspot.com/ "The media reports on the AMI letters confirm what the CDC reports in many important details The media reported that Bob Stevens was indeed seen by his colleagues holding a letter close to his face on September 19, 2001. It was pointed out by Phil Brennan writing for Newsmax that this letter that Stevens was seen reading had actually arrived at AMI on September 4, 2001." Phil Brennan said Stevens held it up to his face and then put it down on the keyboard (where traces of anthrax were found). So maybe Steven's contracted the anthrax on September 19th, however the letter arrived at AMI before 9/11. And if it arrived before 9/11 to coincidentally infect someone working within a few miles of where the hijackers stayed, that sort of rules out a domestic terrorist, doesn't it?

Or maybe the source wasn't that letter. We really don't know. But we do know Stevens started showing symptoms some time before October 2nd, when he was hospitalized. This somewhat authoritative report (http://www.fpd.umn.edu/files/GlobalChron.pdf link no longer working (and I don't care to figure out why at this time) said the onset of symptoms was around September 28th. Inhalation anthrax has an uncertain incubation time (from less than a week or two to as much as 2 months). The median time is reported to be 10 days according to one study. The CDC says its generally less than 2 weeks but "due to spore dormancy and slow clearance from the lungs, the incubation period for inhalational anthrax may be prolonged." And according to CNN, Florida Health Secretary Dr. John Agwunobi advised anyone who spent more than an hour in the AMI building since August 1st to report for testing. Just to give you an idea of how uncertain officials might really be about the timeline.

The bottom line is we don't really know when Stevens was exposed. The hijackers killed on 9/11 could indeed have done it within the margins of certainty on what we do know. Or others who didn't kill themselves but aided the plot could have done it. So don't be so quick to rule out that possibility. Especially when you haven't explained how the first case just happened to show up within a few miles of where the hijackers were staying.
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-anthrax2-2008aug02,0,4558967.story

A financial motive for Ivins -- he had patents on two anthrax vaccines.

Boloboffin, you really need to learn to dig deeper ... do more than just read headlines and the first paragraph of articles. The LA Times announced in big headlines that "Suspect stood to gain from anthrax panic" then under that the sub-tile announced "Biodefense scientist Bruce Ivins could have collected royalties from a new vaccine he had co-invented." The first paragraph of the article then stated he "stood to gain financially from massive federal spending in the fear-filled aftermath of those killings." Wow! You'd think he was set to make millions!

BUT, in the eight paragraph of the article (still on the front page in case you missed it, boloboffin), it has this:

Some proportion would have been shared with the inventors," said the executive, who spoke anonymously because of contractual confidentiality, "Ivins would have stood to make tens of thousands of dollars, but not millions."

Now can you point us to sources that indicate he had financial problems so severe that he would have been willing to kill for a few tens of thousands of dollars? Or is this just another smear to build a motive? Like they did in the Foster case?
 
Seems odd to me that a man of his intelligence would commit suicide by Tylenol.

A slow, painful and miserable death. Kidneys, Liver shut down and are destroyed. Toxins and waste build up in your body. Don't think so!?

The initial reports I read said he overdosed on Tylenol #3, not plain Tylenol. There is a huge difference. Yes, plain Tylenol overdose causes liver failure but an OD of Tylenol #3 will kill you long before that from shock, hypotension, and respiratory failure. So which was it that he took? Plain Tylenol or Tylenol#3 which is Tylenol or acetaminophen (300 mgs) with codeine (30 mgs per tablet).
 
Only a fool would believe these reports by the MSM.
 
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This whole case has seemed extra convoluted and fishy to me from the very start. It got even more so after the events with Hatfill and the feeding frenzy of character assassination that followed initial announcements of suspicion.

I was asked by someone I care about yesterday whether I thought this might be a case where Ivins had been framed or falsely implicated. I thought about it, trying to work out all of the information I know from the various news reports and weighing them against the facts that are known (which are few). I had to honestly admit I hadn't formed an opinion on it because there just wasn't enough information for me to trust any kind of accusation.

And, in that, I find it odd to see so much conclusiveness in some of the posts here, both conspiracy theorist and otherwise.

To go through my thoughts on the subject, I have to be clear that I'm not only counting facts and I try to avoid going too far into speculation in most cases. The problem is that there is so little evidence available to the public and we don't know when any other evidence will be released (yet). I think some of the most critical information on whether Ivins was possibly the person who did this will come in not about the level of circumstantial connection to his lab or areas where he had access, but instead on whether this was someone who was of a state of mind to commit these acts and whether there is evidence of actions, materials, and motivations linked directly to him.

On the state of mind thing I am just not clear. From the LA Times article that boloboffin linked earlier [link]: She added that Ivins had been "forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic, homicidal killer. I have that in evidence. And through my working with him, I also believe that to be very true." The implication there and the language used certainly seems very official and ominous, but it doesn't make any rational sense. This was someone who has, for nearly two decades, had pretty high security clearance. Not only that, but since 9/11 checks on security clearance has gotten tighter and more careful. It certainly boggles the mind how, if the implications being made about his sanity are in any way accurate, this man still managed to not only get security clearance to operate in the facility, not only to work with the dangerous materials, but also to assist the FBI in examining the early anthrax attack evidence in the early stages of the investigation. So, someone for whom several psychiatrists diagnosed as sociopathic and homicidal was not only given access to extremely dangerous biological material, but was also used to examine some of the earliest evidence from the anthrax attacks. That alone makes the allusions that this man's state of mind was known to be dangerous of a questionable veracity, to say the least. I don't discount the therapist making a restraining order, which is verifiable through court documentation, but unless there is more information in the unreleased evidence about documented assessments of his mental stability I have to chalk the current claims about his alleged mental state to be in the speculative are, at best.

The evidence of actions and materials are also not quite clear, but more concrete. There is supposedly evidence that some of the mailing materials came from close to where he lived, and there is the evidence that places him in a position to acquire the anthrax (which has been traced back to his lab). While this doesn't put the blame on Ivins for the actions, it certainly puts him high on the list of those who are capable of the actions. The problem is that this type of evidence is highly circumstantial, and if that is reflective of the rest of the evidence that is currently being held then that doesn't necessarily make the case that it was Ivins.

Another thing I wanted to touch on was some of the reporting that's going on about the topic. A lot of the major news agencies are framing this case as if there was definitely an impending indictment. For example, a CNN article [link] are saying things like: "the day Ivins died, lawyers were to meet and discuss a possible plea deal for him." The implication of such statements is that there is a presumed element of bargaining for the defendant on the case, but in reality even if the meeting was to discuss and plea deal it was most likely set up by the prosecution and not the defense. Furthermore, the case hadn't even finished going before a grand jury for authorization to go to trial, and that fact is being highly under-reported. There isn't necessarily reason to believe that this case was even going to make it all the way to court, let alone be a conclusive case on the anthrax attacks like some of the stories out there seem to imply but not outright state. Naturally, since the defendant is now dead we're not going to be able to know for sure how a trial would have worked out, but perhaps the evidence might be released at a later date if the FBI really does decide to call the case closed.

My only opinion on the matter at this point is that if the FBI does indeed close the case, they had better be able to present some pretty definitive evidence to the culpability of Ivins if they think he was the culprit. While that may not seem like it's necessary for a case that may for all intents be going cold, it's important for the historical implications of the case in the post-9/11 world. There may not be an overriding legal reason to document the closing of the case to the fullest extent possible, but if it isn't done then the FBI will be inviting heavy questioning of their reliability and due diligence on the case in the history books. That is not only tasty fodder for conspiracy theorists, but it also serves to damage the overall public confidence in the agency as a whole from a law enforcement stance.
 

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