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Merged Anthrax Case Solved?

Kevin_Lowe said:
So what? It's not like there was an election coming up or any other pressing reason to care about such public pressure
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It's simply naive to think there wouldn't have been significant pressure to react if the American public had been told Iraq was involved in 9/11 or the anthrax attack. And I rather doubt that "just bombing something as a token retaliation" would have met the expectations of the public … not following the murder of over 3000 people in the WTC towers, Pentagon and aboard several American commercial passenger aircraft. Not if those politicians wanted to survive the next election, whenever it occurred. And we were simply not ready for a full scale war with Iraq.

Kevin_Lowe said:
The fact that absolutely no evidence linking Iraq to 9/11 has ever come out except for these cherry-picked quotes which require interpretation with hindsight to see any connection make me think that there is no such good evidence.
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Cherry picked? Hardly.

Requiring interpretation? Yeah, a little, but not that much. Not anywhere near the degree of the interpretation needed to make sense of your Nostradamus.

And you are wrong about that being the only evidence linking Iraq to 9/11.

The Weekly Standard revealed (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/378fmxyz.asp ) that a formerly secret government memo by Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith to several Senators in October of 2003 stated a Malaysia-based Iraqi national named Shakir facilitated the arrival of one of the Sept 11 hijackers for an operational meeting in Kuala Lumpur in January 2000. Shakir's travel and contacts link him to a worldwide network of terrorists, including al Qaeda. Shakir worked at the Kuala Lumpur airport … a job he claimed to have obtained through an Iraqi embassy employee. Shakir was detained in Qatar in September of 2001. Found in his possession was contact information for terrorists involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the 1998 embassy bombings, the 2000 attack on the USS Cole, and the September 11 hijackings. The Qataris released him and he flew to Amman, Jordan, where he then changed planes to a flight to Baghdad. But before the plane took off, he was detained and for several months the CIA interrogated him in Jordan. All the while, the Iraqi regime pressured Jordan to release him. And finally they did, at which point Shakir is believed to have fled to Iraq.

The Feith memo also disclosed that "a May 2003 debriefing of a senior Iraqi intelligence officer" indicated that "Iraqi intelligence established a highly secretive relationship with Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and later with al Qaeda." They held meetings in the Sudan, Pakistan and even Baghdad. According to Feith, "the report claimed that Saddam insisted the relationship with al Qaeda be kept secret. After 9-11, the source said Saddam made a personnel change in the IIS for fear the relationship would come under scrutiny from foreign probes." Feith's memo stated that "The Director of Iraqi Intelligence, Mani abd-al-Rashid al-Tikriti, met privately with bin Laden at his farm in Sudan in July 1996 … snip … and discussed bin Laden's request for IIS technical assistance in: a) making letter and parcel bombs; b) making bombs which could be placed on aircraft and detonated by changes in barometric pressure; and c) making false passport [sic]."

Here's another Weekly Standard revelation:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/804yqqnr.asp?pg=2

In its issue dated January 11, 1999, Newsweek quoted an anonymous "Arab intelligence officer who knows Saddam personally" as warning that "very soon you will be witnessing large-scale terrorist activity run by the Iraqis" against Western targets. The Iraqi plan would be run under one of three "false flags": Palestinian, Iranian, and the "al Qaeda apparatus." All of these groups, Newsweek reported, had representatives in Baghdad."
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We know that Iraq was working with al-Qaeda, K_L. Documents unearthed in April 2003 in the Iraqi Intelligence headquarters by journalists Mitch Potter and Inigo Gilmore, included a 1998 memo written by Iraq's intelligence service detailing coming meetings with a bin Laden representative traveling to Baghdad. Each reference to bin Laden had been covered by liquid paper that, when revealed, exposed a plan to increase cooperation between Iraq and al Qaeda. And just four days after the date on that memo, bin Laden issued his fatwa on the plight of Iraq at the hands of America, calling on his followers to "kill all Americans and their allies--civilians and military".

There are facts suggesting that Atta (one of the 9/11 hijackers) not only met with the Iraqi government agent in Prague in the months just prior to 9/11 but was given a large amount of money by al-Ani. Who knows what else he was given?

And there are strong reasons to suspect that Iraq was involved in the previous attack on the WTC. The leader of the 1993 WTC bomb plot was none other than a man with an Iraqi passport named Ramzi Yousef. Ramzi was known to his associates as "Rashid the Iraqi". Yousef was also one of the original planners of Operation Bojinka in 1994. And THAT was a plot to attack buildings with airplanes. What a coincidence.

Another leader in the WTC bomb plot, Abdul Rahman Yasin, fled to Baghdad after the bombing. Documents found in Iraq after the invasion show he was put on government payroll and given a home. In addition, an ABC news stringer saw him there in 1994, outside his father's house, and learned from neighbors that he worked for the Iraqi government.

Iraq was clearly involved in the first attempt to bring down the World Trade Center towers. So why not the second?

Several murals celebrating 9/11 were discovered in Iraq after the invasion. Here's one:

http://www.nationalreview.com/images/mural3.jpg

Why did Saddam seem so proud of the event? Almost like a new father smoking a cigar while taking credit for the *baby*.

And here's another mural:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/26/sprj.irq.mural/index.html .

Notice that the plane has the markings of an Iraqi airliner.

And then we have Oklahoma City. Herb Johnson was the chief advisor and former chief of staff for Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe (recall, he's the Senator who's private plane propeller just happened to come off during a flight to meet with Bill Clinton). Johnson wrote a letter in September 1998 describing the DOJ cover-up of the Middle East connection to the OKC bombing. He stated that the head of the FBI command post in OKC told him that the DOJ had ordered the FBI within 74 hours of the OKC bombing to keep the public from learning the details of the Middle Eastern involvement in the OKC bombing.

In fact, do you know that the owner (Leah McGowan) of a motel outside Oklahoma City (the Dreamland Motel) remembers that Atta, Moussaoui (you know who they are, right?) and another of the 9/11 hijackers tried to find lodging six weeks before 9/11? Leah said they wanted to stay there because it came highly recommended but had to be turned them away because the motel was full at the time. Now guess what (talk about coincidences)? It's the same motel where McVeigh stayed several times in the months before the OKC bombing. In fact, former Oklahoma City TV reporter Jayna Davis has signed affidavits from motel staff and former guests that McVeigh was there at the same time as several Iraqis, who they said were moving barrels of material (that smelled like diesel) around in the bed of a truck (mind you, diesel fuel was one of the OKC bomb components). And by the way, according to the Moussaoui indictment, he was indeed in Oklahoma city about the time the motel owner indicated and opened a bank account in Norman (where he attended flight school just 28 miles from the motel). According to the indictment, Atta and another 9/11 hijacker also attended the Norman flight school about that time. (see http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_motel.htm ) What a coincidence.

Kevin_Lowe said:
Uncorroborated early news reports plus Newsmax? Where's the actual evidence?
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LOL! Well the sources I've presented are better than what you've offered … which is nothing. So admit it … the letter arrived BEFORE 9/11. And then try to explain that.

By the way, just to add more fuel to this fire, ever hear of FBI translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds? Edmonds charged (among other things) that in April 2001, a long term FBI asset provided two FBI agents and a translator with specific information regarding a terrorist attack being planned by Osama bin Laden. The asset was previously a high level intelligence officer in Iraq. He learned that bin Laden was (1) planning a terrorist attack in the US targeting 4-5 major cities, (2) the attack would involve airplanes, (3) some of the people involved in the attack were already in the US, (4) and the attack would occur in the next few months. The agents reported this to their superior, the Special Agent in Charge of Counterterrorism, Thomas Frields, by filing "302" forms. No action was taken by the Special Agent in Charge and after 9/11 the agents and translater were told to "keep quiet". And note that the 7/29/04 issue of the NYTimes concluded that none of Edmonds accusations are "disproved". (from "‪The hidden history of 9-11-2001‬" By Paul Zarembka)

Also, CBS News reported in July 2001, that AG Ashcroft had stopped flying commercial airlines due to a threat assessment (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml ) but neither the FBI or DOJ would identify the nature of the threat other than to say it wasn't one specifially against him. It is later reported that he stopped flying in July based on threat assessments made on May 8. Curious coincidence, isn't it? The San Francisco Chronicle said this (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/06/03/hsorensen.DTL ): "Heads-Up To Ashcroft Proves Threat Was Known Before 9/11 … snip … The FBI obviously knew something was in the wind. Why else would it have Ashcroft use a $1,600-plus per hour G-3 Gulfstream when he could have flown commercial, as he always did before, for a fraction of the cost?"

So you see, the FBI and government are not above keeping something quiet if it serves national security or some other agenda. Which is why using unsubstantiated FBI claims to *prove* that they found no evidence of anthrax in the hijackers belongings or apartments just doesn't cut it. :D
 
That's a big wall of text, with the same poor sources, errors of reasoning and blatant assertions from your previous posts.

Believe what you want to believe. I'm beginning to suspect that's the beginning and the end of your belief-formation process. Nothing you've cited looks like reasonable grounds for belief to me.
 
Let's remind ourselves of the entirety of that sentence.

.... with the same poor sources, errors of reasoning and blatant assertions from your previous posts.
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Kevin, you forgot "cherrypicked".

Rolfe.
 
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