Another staged attack on a teabagger whacko?

leftysergeant said:
Not in the eyes of the law in most places. Tabor had the opportunity to back down. It looks to me as though Spencer was trying to leave, and the religious nutjob was trying to block his way to his car. He followed Spencer to his car, still filming intermittently. Now ask yourself, if you know your assailant and have video of him smacking you already, are you going to go stick a camera in his face again when you know the cops are coming anyway?
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Actually, yes. I want to get as much evidence as possible to support the charges I plan to make. I want him to show anger; rage even. I want him to threaten me on camera. I want him to come after me again. This isn't any back alley or bar parking lot. This is in downtown Greensboro outside a congressman's office with dozens of willing witnesses.

Oh, and I don't believe he was filming intermittently. I believe he edited heavily after the fact. And that makes me wonder: if he has the whole thing on video and has called the police, why do the police not take the memory card as evidence? As soon as he takes it home and edits it and posts it online its value as evidence in court is destroyed. Hmm....
 
Lefty,

You are seriously defending this guy?

What I wonder, is, had the debate not been left vs right, but rather Red Sox vs. Yankees, would you still be defending the assailant?
 
This part of Teabagger mythology is the oddest of them all. The part where they honestly believe that the SEIU is some sort of quasi-military force rather than a union of, you know, service employees. Like food service workers and janitors (and in San Francisco, sex workers!).

That said, scuffles in parking lots between two extremists isn't really evidence of anything. It's just two ******** fighting in a parking lot. To paraphrase the great President Obama. "They're jackasses".
 
Unabogie said:
This part of Teabagger mythology is the oddest of them all. The part where they honestly believe that the SEIU is some sort of quasi-military force rather than a union of, you know, service employees. Like food service workers and janitors (and in San Francisco, sex workers!).
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What is funny is that it only took one pudgy middle-aged SEIU soldier to terrorize an entire platoon (company?) of teabaggers. NC teabaggers aren't known for their nuanced debate and peaceful protest, they're known for their machine gun socials.
 
madurobob said:
It looks like Taber was pushing his camera into Spencer's face and Spencer pushed him back. Taber's response is "oh my god, someone call the police". Then "don't touch my wife". Then the scuffle and punch.

As far as I can tell, the only punch thrown was by Spencer, but there was some pushing and shoving that might justify that in a judge's eyes.
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No. The hit to the face is the only true criminal offense here.

Harsh words, "scuffles", and pushing around are legit, not the punch to the face.
 
Pardalis said:
Who is the one who threw the punch again?

It is antisocial behavior to punch someone in the face.
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It is perfectly acceptable under American law to knock a fool's teeth out if he is standing between you and a point of egress while acting in a menacing fashion.

I wouldn't have punched him, though. I would have simply whipped out a .38 Special and offered to blow his danglies off if he did not get out of the path between me and my vehicle. Quite legal, actually.
 
leftysergeant said:
It is perfectly acceptable under American law to knock a fool's teeth out if he is standing between you and a point of egress while acting in a menacing fashion.
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Please show me.

I wouldn't have punched him, though. I would have simply whipped out a .38 Special and offered to blow his danglies off if he did not get out of the path between me and my vehicle. Quite legal, actually.
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Now who is the sociopath I wonder. :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_P...Hare.27s_Checklist_and_other_mental_disorders
 
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Pardalis said:
No. The hit to the face is the only true criminal offense here.

Harsh words, "scuffles", and pushing around are legit, not the punch to the face.
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Actually, "fighting words," "shoving," and "scuffles" can be considered "assault" under the law.

I'm not taking a side in this...I'm just sayin'.
 
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Cleon said:
Actually, "fighting words," "shoving," and "scuffles" can be considered "assault" under the law.

I'm not taking a side in this...I'm just sayin'.
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Perhaps, but one would need to ask a lawyer, but I believe physical contact with the head is clearly beyond what is acceptable.

You don't touch someone else's head, ever.
 
Pardalis said:
No. The hit to the face is the only true criminal offense here.

Harsh words, "scuffles", and pushing around are legit, not the punch to the face.
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Um, no. A shove, a push or a punch, no intentional, unsolicited bodily contact is "legit" as you put it. If I grab a woman's breast in public and she punches me, is she guilty of assault and not me? Of course not.
 
The idiot was shoving a camera in Spencer's face. He appears to have been between Spencer and his vehicle when Spencer was attempting to leave the area. False imprisonment in some jurisdictions. His demeanor was clearly threatening. Punching him out was an acceptable response.

And, if he was just punched in the face by someone so much his physical superior, how was he able to talk so clearly and calmly when he confronted Spencer in his vehicle. Doesn't add up.

Also, this idiot is the head of a media company of some sort. He filmed spencer from several angles and distances, but didn't bother to film him when he was confronting his wife in a hostile manner? WTF?

I think loser boy Tabor wanted to earn some street cred for standing up to a "union thug" so that he wouldn't get so thoroughly trounced in his next run for elected office.
 
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Maybe Tabor overreacted when he said "don't touch my wife", but the punch was clearly uncalled for.
 
leftysergeant said:
Also, this idiot is the head of a media company of some sort. He filmed spencer from several angles and distances, but didn't bother to film him when he was confronting his wife in a hostile manner? WTF?
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He's more of a loan shark/used car salesman who dabbles in media. But, yeah. There were clearly two cameras (at least) capturing the event. But, no raw footage has been released nor provided to police.

Spencer walked into a political stunt, and fell for it completely. But, by acting and reacting the way he did he put himself on equal standing with Tabor (and that's mighty low). I have no sympathy for either of them.
 
Pardalis said:
Maybe Tabor overreacted when he said "don't touch my wife", but the punch was clearly uncalled for.
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Shovinmg a camera in Spencer's face and blocking his egress from the scene is unacceptable. As for shoving loser boy Tabor's wife, how did the idiot fail to resume filming when the big menacing angry black man approached her? and how did a shrieking lunatic crowd of rednecks not see it happening and gang-stomp Spencer as southern lunatics are known to do? Doesn't add up.
 
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