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Andrew Jackson Killed the Bank

First off, why do you use 4 posts in a row to do what you can do in 1? Second, you really should develop the skill of checking your facts. I don't know if your inaccuracies fly in other forums, but they certainly won't fly here. ETA: Your mistakes are in WELL DOCUMENTED HISTORY - it blows my mind you think people won't call you on this.
 
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You may be correct

Of all the ridiculous things you've posted in your brief time here, this is clearly my favorite.

:)MWare, you jumped me real hard for saying that Andrew Jackson had the words, "I killed the Bank" written on his tombstone. While I've seen this on numerous occasions, I could only find it on various forums and an article entitled , The History of the House of Rothschild by Anonymous Andy and Daryl Bradford Smith. I searched and searched but couldn't find anything that would serve as evidence to satisfy you.

However, I believe it is true that when Andrew Jackson was asked what he thought was his greatest achievement, he said, "I killed the Bank." He was referring to The Second Bank of the United States, the central bank he had banished in 1836. I hope my facts are correct this time. I apologize for my failure to check my facts as thoroughly as I should.
 
Not anti-semitic, anti-Zionist

Of course. What assasination conspiracy would be complete without Jewish banker villains behind it?

Go away. Your pathetic antisemitic hatred isn't wanted here.

:)Ziggurat, I am afraid your ignorance regarding what is or is not anti-semitic has made you the hateful one here. You see, I love Jews, people who practice the religion of Judaism. I also love Muslims, those who practice the Islamic religion. I have no problem with any semitic people.

What I do have a problem with is criminals who only call themselves Jews, deceptively so. My real problem is with Zionists, none of whom are actually Jews. Instead of spewing your venom at me, through ignorance, check out what real honest to goodness Jews have to say. Check out True Torah Jews against Zionism. You'll then discover what honest, God loving Jewish Rabbis have to say about Judaism and Zionism. THEY believe a good Jew can not be a Zionist and a Zionist can not be a good Jew.

It's ignorant folks like you who hurt people when you don't even know it.
 
Not Jews, Zionists!

Well, they're all jews. That's all you need to know.

bwinwrong.

:) sinclairmcevoy, It is very clear to me that as intelligent as I know most of you are here in this website, few of you seem to understand the difference between a Jew and a Zionist. Check out True Torah Jews against Zionism to learn the truth. Simply because people call themselves Jews doesn't mean they are. A Jew is someone who practices Judaism. Judaism is not a race or nationality. It is a religion. Zionism is a political movement and its leaders don't give a damn about Judaism. The owners of the Central Banks are all Zionists, not Jews.
 
According to Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr., The Rothschilds hired John Wilkes Booth to kill Lincoln for printing "greenbacks" and not borrowing money from them to finance his war effort.
Did Robert Gaylon Ross Sr. present any evidence for this, or was he just writing fiction?

Andrew Jackson absolutely "hated" the central bank. He used this idea as his campaign slogan. "No central bank!"
That central bank or any central bank?

Watch the video entitled THE MONEY MASTERS by Bill Still. It's a great history lesson.
Jackson was the last U.S. President to leave this country debt free. Check it out!
Even if true (and you presented no evidence that it was) don't you think the fact that the country was only 20 years old had a little something to do with that?

The FED is a privately owned bank that owns our country and tells our politicians what to do. Not only do the cats that own the FED own America, lock, stock, and barrel, they also own The Bank of England, The UK, Israel, and most of the civilized world.
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:)MWare, you jumped me real hard for saying that Andrew Jackson had the words, "I killed the Bank" written on his tombstone. While I've seen this on numerous occasions, I could only find it on various forums and an article entitled , The History of the House of Rothschild by Anonymous Andy and Daryl Bradford Smith. I searched and searched but couldn't find anything that would serve as evidence to satisfy you.
This is 100% true, except you have misunderstood. All he did was arrange the pepperoni on his frozen pizza make those letters. Then he cooked it and ate it.

I hope my facts are correct this time. I apologize for my failure to check my facts as thoroughly as I should.
What you're supposed to do is provide a link to a source of these facts so we can all judge your evidence for ourselves.
 
All Rothschild controlled central banks

Did Robert Gaylon Ross Sr. present any evidence for this, or was he just writing fiction?


That central bank or any central bank?


Even if true (and you presented no evidence that it was) don't you think the fact that the country was only 20 years old had a little something to do with that?


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:)Wildcat, I am certainly not an expert on all of this but understanding the Central Banks is crucial to understanding virtually everything else going on today. I found watching THE MONEY MASTERS extremely helpful. It's full of historical information about how it all got started, what our founding fathers though about it, etc. Also, athe video by Eustace Mullins is great.
 
I am not as computer literate as I need to be yet

This is 100% true, except you have misunderstood. All he did was arrange the pepperoni on his frozen pizza make those letters. Then he cooked it and ate it.


What you're supposed to do is provide a link to a source of these facts so we can all judge your evidence for ourselves.

:)Wildcat, I am going to do more homework to actually learn how to use this computer. I just took the tutorial to figure out how the "quote" function works. I'm still in a fog but I do enjoy all of this, even if there are those who would like to disembowel me. I love you all, regardless!
 
According to Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr., The Rothschilds hired John Wilkes Booth to kill Lincoln for printing "greenbacks" and not borrowing money from them to finance his war effort.


As a long time Civil War Buff,I can say that is Bullsh-t of the most idiotic kind.
 
As a long time Civil War Buff,I can say that is Bullsh-t of the most idiotic kind.
I don't know about that.

While that is, indeed, impressively idiotic, I think that the claim that the Rothschilds own the Federal Reserve is somewhat more idiotic.
 
I just took the tutorial to figure out how the "quote" function works. I'm still in a fog but I do enjoy all of this, even if there are those who would like to disembowel me. I love you all, regardless!


Perhaps if you're feeling a bit overwhelmed, you may want to hang back a little and get the hang of things by spending some time in threads that are established and seeing how posters are presenting some compelling arguments instead of jumping right out and creating 10 brand new threads on subjects in which you really haven't done any research. Once you get the hang of things and develop some good techniques for making compelling arguments and sourcing your facts, then you can go to the next step of posting something that stands in the face of well established history.

BTW - I for one, have no interest in removing your bowels.
 
This is a strange thread - there seems to be roughly 3 completely unrelated (to the casual observer - i.e. me) arguments going on yet somehow they are tied together by fate or something (like in Pulp Fiction). Maybe if I hang around I'll see it all come together at the end :)
 
Just noticed this courtesy of MWare:

“The plural of anecdote is not evidence."
--George Stigler

Very good - I am going to use that one myself - it will wind the mrs up a treat.
 
Folks, I was going over the NWO Archives and found out we replaced Jackson's tombstone in 1913. They carried it to the Grove and used it to build a new altar for the Cremation of Care ritual. I think we should plan a special centennial ceremony in five years. Is Harry Connick Jr. free?
 
www(dot)whitehouse(dot)gov/about/presidents/andrewjackson/
The 11th paragraph QUOTE:
The greatest party battle centered around the Second Bank of the United States, a private corporation but virtually a Government-sponsored monopoly. When Jackson appeared hostile toward it, the Bank threw its power against him.

Clay and Webster, who had acted as attorneys for the Bank, led the fight for its recharter in Congress. "The bank," Jackson told Martin Van Buren, "is trying to kill me, but I will kill it!" EndQuote

I believe his epitaph included the phrase "I killed the bank!" Obviously it wasn't his tombstone.

Would have weighed in earlier but only found this thread this evening.

I can't post links, google this perhaps:


Andrew Jackson's Veto Message. Washington, July 10, 1832
To the Senate:
A bank of the United States is in many respects convenient for the Government and useful to the people.
Entertaining this opinion, and deeply impressed with the belief that some of the powers and privileges
possessed by the existing bank are unauthorized by the Constitution, subversive of the rights of the States,
and dangerous to the liberties of the people, I felt it my duty at an early period of my Administration to
call the attention of Congress to the practicability or organizing an institution combining all its advantages
and obviating these objections. I sincerely regret that in the act before me I can perceive none of those
modifications of the bank charter which are necessary, in my opinion, to make it compatible with justice,
with sound policy, or with the Constitution of our country.
Outside information: Andrew Jackson chose to nullify the charter of the Bank of the United States
because he believed it was unconstitutional, he felt it only benefited the wealthy, and he had grievances
with the institution because of its alleged role in the Panic of 1819. Jackson took control of U.S.
economic policy, over rode a decision of Congress, and despite its economic backfiring, he continued to
support his decision.


More here:

www(dot)archive(dot)org/stream/memoirsofgeneral01banc/memoirsofgeneral01banc_djvu(dot)txt
 
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***HOWEVER***
I DO NOT support CT's and also offer:
Debunking the Federal Reserve Conspiracy Theories

BY: Edward Flaherty, Ph.D. Department of Economics College of Charleston, S.C.

Facts: Yes, the Federal Reserve banks are privately owned, but they are controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors. The Federal Reserve banks merely execute the monetary policy choices made by the Board. In addition, nearly all the interest the Federal Reserve collects on government bonds is rebated to the Treasury each year, so the government does not pay any net interest to the Fed.

Facts: No foreigners own any part of the Fed. Each Federal Reserve bank is owned exclusively by the participating commercial banks and S&Ls operating within the Federal Reserve bank's district. Individuals and non-bank firms, be they foreign or domestic, are not permitted by law to own any shares of a Federal Reserve bank. Moreover, monetary policy is controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors, not by the Federal Reserve banks.

Fact: Independent accounting firms conduct full financial audits of the Federal Reserve banks and the Board of Governors every year. The Fed is also subject to certain types of audits from the Government Accounting Office.

Facts: The Federal Reserve rebates its net earnings to the Treasury every year. Consequently, the interest the Treasury pays to the Fed is returned, so the money borrowed from the Fed has no net interest obligation for the Treasury. The government could print its own currency independent of the Fed, but there would be no effective safeguards against abuse of this power for political gain.

Facts: The Federal Reserve banks have only a small share of the total national debt (about 7%). Therefore, only a small share of the interest on the debt goes to the Fed. Regardless, the Fed rebates that interest to the Treasury every year, so the debt held by the Fed carries no net interest obligation for the government. In addition, it is Congress, not the Federal Reserve, who is responsible for the federal budget and the national debt.

Facts: Kennedy wrote E.O. 11,110 to phase out silver certificate currency, not to issue more of it. Records show Kennedy and the Federal Reserve were almost always in agreement on policy matters. He even signed legislation to give the Fed more authority to issue currency.

Facts: McFadden was incorrect regarding the Fed costing the government money. However, later economic analysis agrees with him that Federal Reserve policy blunders had a substantial role in causing the Depression. However, his implication that this was done deliberately has no basis in fact. Moreover, for a dozen years prior to his rant, McFadden had been the chairman of the House subcommittee that oversaw the Federal Reserve. Why didn't he do anything to reform or abolish the Fed while he had the chance?

Facts: The banking system is indeed able to create money with a mere computer keystroke. However, a bank's ability to create money is tied directly to the amount of reserves customers have deposited there. A bank must pay a competitive interest rate on those deposits to keep them from leaving to other banks. This interest expense alone is a substantial portion of a bank's operating costs and is de facto proof a bank cannot costlessly create money.

Fact: The term 'lawful money' (HJ-192) does not refer to gold or silver coin, but to types of money which the government would permit banks to use when tabulating their reserves. These types of money included, but were not limited to, gold and silver coin.

BY: Edward Flaherty, Ph.D. Department of Economics College of Charleston, S.C.

www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/Embassy/1154/flaherty(dot)html
 
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