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A woman vet is worth 2/5 of a male

I'm not a vet but I have in my childhood helped one by putting my arm up a cows bum.

Interesting sensation

Cow probably agrees
 
Wear those loooong looong gloves when you do that. We lost a local large animal "2/5" vet a few years ago from one of the diseases you can pick up that way.

I used to sell those gloves and other such paraphernalia when I worked for Petco. Back when it was ONE store, named UPCO. Ranch and kennel supplies. It was an interesting apprenticeship in retail.
 
luchog said:
Of course, the "women are likely to take maternity/family leave and men aren't" is in large part a self-fulfilling prophesy because very few governments and businesses will provide family leave for men. If it was available, I think there would be a lot more men taking it. Obviously, biological necessities would still have women taking the bulk of it; but it's quite clear there are a lot of men who would as well if it was available.
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My firm has about 60 percent women and offers paid paternity and maternity leave for 90 days. Virtually none of the men take much of it. There is no pressure from management to not take it, there doesn't seem to be any stigma attached to taking the leave, yet most only take a few weeks. Female employees almost always take the full amount. Those couple of men that have taken months aren't treated any different when they get back, and they seem really happy about having done it. Nonetheless, most still don't take off for long.

I think it has very much to do with how men and women value work as a component of their sense of personal fulfillment and identity.
 
simonxlong said:
My firm has about 60 percent women and offers paid paternity and maternity leave for 90 days. Virtually none of the men take much of it. There is no pressure from management to not take it, there doesn't seem to be any stigma attached to taking the leave, yet most only take a few weeks. Female employees almost always take the full amount. Those couple of men that have taken months aren't treated any different when they get back, and they seem really happy about having done it. Nonetheless, most still don't take off for long.

I think it has very much to do with how men and women value work as a component of their sense of personal fulfillment and identity.
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Unfortunately, this situation is going to encourage employers to seek to employ more men than women because less disruption is good for their bottom line.
 
Rolfe said:
As a vet who has never married or had children and has worked full-time her entire life, including as a partner in a practice for ten years, I find that comment astoundingly offensive.

Back in the late 1960s when I was fixing up to go to vet college my riding instructor said to me, "they won't want you because you'll get married." Even aged 16 I had a feeling that might not be going to happen, and I was terrified. If I wasn't going to get married I needed a good career to support myself throughout my life on a single income, and if I was going to be barred from such a career on these grounds, what the hell was I going to do?

Fortunately the Dean of the Faculty in the late 1960s was more enlightened. Our class was the first to have approximately equal numbers of male and female students. He actually said to us that he'd decided the profession couldn't go on ignoring half the talent in the population. Over my career I've had, and still have, many talented and committed female colleagues who work full-time - including some with several children.

There is an issue now that the balance of the profession is tipping massively to the female side. It's not just that there is a higher percentage of "wastage" of trained graduates because of this, but the smaller percentage of colleagues who see a partership as part of their career path. But this has to be tackled sensibly and rationally, not by flinging out insults that stick to committed and hard-working women graduates who more than pull their weight.

You can't predict where an individual's career path will take them. A young man who graduated with me was killed in a car crash the following year. That's about as big a waste of an education as you can get. Some graduates will fall by the wayside for any number of reasons. The percentage of women graduates who take time out or work part time is higher on average than that of male graduates doing similar. It's something to take into account.

But if I ever find myself in the same room as this joker, he better watch out.
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Hoped you'd come in and set things straight.

Cheers, hans
 
Dr. Keith said:
I don't know what is most disturbing in a University Chancellor:

- Not understanding that the comments would be taken as demeaning to women, who likely make up more than half of his clientele;
- Not understanding that maternity leave will impact some women's available working hours if we expect to continue biologically; or
- Not understanding that 37/45 is not close to two fifths. It's more than 3/4 for christ's sake.​

What exactly is his degree in that he no good at communications, biology or math?
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Celsius???
 
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