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Pixel42 said:
Inflation has been even worse in the UK over the last three years. Is that Biden's fault too?

Was Covid Trump's fault? After all it happened on his watch.
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As far as that goes, Trump scuttled a lot of the US' pandemic preparedness, including much of the foreign part that was there to help prevent stuff like COVID and, specifically, the part that might have been able to address COVID before it actually became the problem it was or at least warn the world much sooner, so that the world could have potentially dealt with it before it got too widespread to stop.

Naturally, it's impossible to say that COVID wouldn't have happened if Trump hadn't done what he did, but it is quite fair to say that Trump's actions greatly sabotaged the US' ability to deal with pandemics in general. He just got "unlucky" and said entirely predictable pandemic happened on his watch, rather than someone after who he could shift blame onto. As you can see, those like ChrisBFRPKY would love to shift blame anyways, even if they have to use the flimsiest of excuses.
 
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Aridas said:
FTFY. Jesus and Republican Jesus are mostly opposites in what they push, after all. If one were the more objectively religious type, calling Republican Jesus "Satan" would likely make quite a bit of sense.
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To be honest, Yeshua's alleged words are so vague and contradictory that you could get him to endorse any political or moral position.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
...Another shocking difference would be the record setting inflation rates we have experienced under Biden's watch. You could argue that some of this inflation was caused by the pandemic and I would certainly agree. But, the largest cause of inflation has been the printing of money to finance foreign wars. Foreign wars that did not exist during the Trump Presidency...
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Err....what the **** are you talking about?

There was no massive inflation during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, which lasted decades. All paid for using deficit spending.

US inflation is now down back to reasonable levels. Did the wars suddenly end? Russia, Ukraine, Israel now at peace???

Your comments are irrational and illogical.
 
Because Americans had so much consumer spending they weren't doing during the pandemic and we can out of it better than a lot of the world, inflation was always going to be a thing. It's pretty obvious that Trump would have handled it much worse than Biden. Trump simply isn't intelligent enough to understand basic economic concepts and by 2020, he'd lost anyone in the administration who was.
 
FGA pushing anti-woke bills in MO and most red states:
The communications show that officials with the Foundation for Government Accountability suggested regulatory language to Ashcroft and even wrote an op-ed article that Ashcroft published in a national conservative magazine under his own name.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/17/politics/dark-money-fga-ashcroft-invs/index.html

Corporations don't have babies and do not go to middle school to read books on slavery. But this is hwo FGA gets politicians elected, Then they are under FGA control forevers due to funding every election.

By doing all this they control all the state level elsction policies and any Democratic efforts are stopped at state level.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
To be honest, Yeshua's alleged words are so vague and contradictory that you could get him to endorse any political or moral position.
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Ehh. The Bible can be cherry-picked and twisted to endorse pretty much any political or moral position, yes, because of what it actually is. That holds notably less strongly when it comes to what any particular character in the Bible pushes, including Jesus. The Republican Jesus that Republicans push is very contradictory to what Jesus actually taught in the Bible. Still, there is a point that can be made about how willing Republicans have been to employ various dishonest tactics to argue that Up is actually Down. That's not really an argument that Jesus' alleged words are vague and contradictory, though.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Name one thing Biden has done to stop the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. In fact I think it has been made illegal for Ukraine to attempt a negotiation to stop the war with Russia. Why would that happen? How would that happen? If Biden is really close friends with Beebee, why hasn't he negotiated a ceasefire to end the war in Gaza? Does he need ALL the Palestinians to die first?

Never ending wars are not something anyone should vote for. I don't know about you but I want the wars and killing to stop immediately, the sooner the better. Anyone that votes for an administration that promotes never ending wars has a very twisted idea of philosophy and questionable morals.

"Genocide Joe" is a nickname Biden has well earned. Your candidate is currently burning the World, do you support this?
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Well, Biden did send an email and a couple of texts. But no phone call, so your point is taken.
 
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
4 years ago Hamburger here was $1.79 per pound. Usually once a month or so it would go on sale for $0.99 per pound. Now 2024, yesterday, I paid $5.97 per pound at Walmart grocery because it was the cheapest price in our area.

Inflation has reached a little higher than the 18% we are told to believe. Consumer pricing will be a very important issue in the upcoming election.
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I recently had to take out a third mortgage on my house and put my four year-old son into indentured servitude to afford a loaf of bread. And then an illegal immigrant stole it from me.
 
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
Perhaps you need to watch the video again. Harris' rant was all about calling Biden's actions Racist because he worked with two well known Racists and defended them. In effect, she WAS calling Biden a "Racist" or at least his actions and that was her whole point of bringing up the bussing she endured as a child.

Try again.
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So, when she said she didn't believe Biden was a racist, she was, in effect, calling him a racist.

In other news, up is down.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
4 years ago Hamburger here was $1.79 per pound. Usually once a month or so it would go on sale for $0.99 per pound. Now 2024, yesterday, I paid $5.97 per pound at Walmart grocery because it was the cheapest price in our area.

Inflation has reached a little higher than the 18% we are told to believe. Consumer pricing will be a very important issue in the upcoming election.
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Where exactly were you getting ground beef for less than $1 lb. at in 2020?
 
johnny karate said:
I recently had to take out a third mortgage on my house and put my four year-old son into indentured servitude to afford a loaf of bread. And then an illegal immigrant stole it from me.
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Afford bread? Luxury! We 'ad to get by on gruel made from mulched Black Lives Matter signs!
 
Hercules56 said:
Err....what the **** are you talking about?

There was no massive inflation during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, which lasted decades. All paid for using deficit spending.

US inflation is now down back to reasonable levels. Did the wars suddenly end? Russia, Ukraine, Israel now at peace???

Your comments are irrational and illogical.
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It's perhaps worth adding a bit further context here, too. US spending on preventing the genocide of Ukrainians has amounted to a significant sum in raw value. It's still a fraction of the size of the ongoing military budget, though, and seems to be dramatically more cost effective than just about any of the rest of what we've spent on the military. Much of it's not really been dealt with in the form of currency, too, so much as Ukraine being supplied with a lot of equipment that the US wasn't going to actually use, anyways, or was just going to retire and which we would have to pay more to continue maintaining and/or retiring than costs us to send it over to Ukraine. Actual spending has overwhelmingly been spent in the US, of course, so it's not like the money's really leaving the country. The disruptions caused by Russia's invasion did cause problems with inflation, but that wasn't much because of printing money to finance foreign wars so much as supply chain disruption and uncertainty.

If one was actually concerned about massive amounts of money being printed, though, that's likely touching or wrapped in spending concerns and the increasing national debt. To that, of course, I think that it's worth pointing out that the Republican's Two Santa Clauses strategy is a pointedly irresponsible sabotage the nation for political gain strategy that has long been poison to the US and responsible budget management.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Do you enjoy the current wars, death and destruction that could be stopped with a phone call?
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So why hasn’t this great and magnanimous statesman made the phone call already, thereby ending the catastrophic suffering, winning the Nobel Peace Prize by unanimous vote, and humiliating Mr. Biden to boot?

Oh, right. It’s for the same reason he dictated a bipartisan, though largely Republican, border deal be quashed for at least 10 months. He doesn’t give a gaseous **** about death, destruction, rape, torture, or any number of evils unless doing so benefits him personally. The kind of actions/inactions, among others, that get a person judged by Democratic, Republican, and independent historians as the worst president in American history.

Spare me your play-pretend and fallacy-rich outrage about President Biden. Your support of a lying, cheating, raping, lifelong criminal conman makes your whining about the couple dollars more you allegedly pay for hamburger pretty close to obscene.
 
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Hercules56 said:
Im struggling to find beef CPI increase that he is claiming. Can't find anything like it. Looks like he's lying.
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It's one of those claims that's hard to directly prove/disprove without more context, of course. Local factors and selection bias can easily mess with specifics.

With that said, I think that I'll add a link for a ground beef price tracker here. Prices are definitely up, overall, but the price that he speaks of is roughly half of what it was rated at then, before pandemic related spike, and the special is roughly a quarter. It's no surprise that a deal that good wouldn't last forever.
 
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