Merged 2024 Election Thread

[Hercules56]

Ironically, Putin made his first move on Ukraine during the Obama administration, with clear signals from the White House that they would be allowed to get away with it.

Then nothing during the Trump administration.

Then, after Biden replaces Trump, Putin makes his second move on Ukraine.

I think this sequence of events tends to falsify the hypothesis that Trump encourages Russian aggression.

Trump says he won't even defend NATO members!!!

Why the hell would he defend Ukraine?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

No, it is "that is that" unless you are a traitor and an enemy of the US Constitution who think they have the right to violate the will of the people with violence just cuz the election doesn't go their way.

You don't burn down democracy in order to save it.

Here you go...

Sign up for Truth Social.

 

[Hercules56]

Here you go...

Sign up for Truth Social.

So we should act just like the 1/6 MAGAts if Trump wins the election?

Wow.

 

[theprestige]

Trump says he won't even defend NATO members!!!

Why the hell would he defend Ukraine?

Bro, I have no idea. I'm just saying what the sequence of events actually was.

 

[Hercules56]

Bro, I have no idea. I'm just saying what the sequence of events actually was.

Glad you think eastern europe and the NATO alliance will be safe under Trump.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Trump says he won't even defend NATO members!!!
Why the hell would he defend Ukraine?

Is that all he said? Or have you left out pertinent facts in order to create a specific narrative? If you have, that's dishonesty and your narrative is doomed to fail.

 

[Shadowdweller]

So we should act just like the 1/6 MAGAts if Trump wins the election?

Wow.

And the appropriate response to Hitler or Mussolini being elected (/co-appointed) should have been a nice, civilized, peaceful protest, should it?

Edited by Agatha: 

Edited for rule 0. Please remain civil.

 

[Hercules56]

Is that all he said? Or have you left out pertinent facts in order to create a specific narrative? If you have, that's dishonesty and your narrative is doomed to fail.

Right, he also said he would encourage our enemies to invade NATO members that do not do his bidding.

 

[Hercules56]

No, the appropriate response to 1/6 is not to stage a violent coup and shred the Constitution.

 

[Ziggurat]

And the appropriate response to Hitler or Mussolini being elected should have been a nice, peaceful protest, should it?

Edited by Agatha: 

Edited to match moderated quote.

Hitler wasn't elected.

 

[Ziggurat]

Right, he also said he would encourage our enemies to invade NATO members that do not do his bidding.

His bidding? Yeah, not quite.

 

[Tero]

It's a primary. People will show up in Nov to vote dems.

 

[Hercules56]

Hitler wasn't elected.

He came to power through purely constitutional means. It all followed the Weimar Constitution.

 

[Hercules56]

His bidding? Yeah, not quite.

"Fund your defense department to the amount that I demand, or I will not defend you!!!!"

 

[Shadowdweller]

He came to power through purely constitutional means. It all followed the Weimar Constitution.

Sort of, but yeah. There was a bit of political extortion thrown in there as well. Same with Mussolini

 

[dirtywick]

Ironically, Putin made his first move on Ukraine during the Obama administration, with clear signals from the White House that they would be allowed to get away with it.

Then nothing during the Trump administration.

Then, after Biden replaces Trump, Putin makes his second move on Ukraine.

I think this sequence of events tends to falsify the hypothesis that Trump encourages Russian aggression.

maybe. he wants the us out of nato and somehow trump does as well. it would have been more difficult if he had attacked ukraine. once trump was out so was that plan. imo

 

[Delvo]

Tonight Biden will have his chance to demonstrate he can put two words together. In fact I understand he can put three or four words together. What a low expectations bar his opponents have set.

Lie.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Tonight Biden will have his chance to demonstrate he can put two words together. In fact I understand he can put three or four words together. What a low expectations bar his opponents have set.

Also I hear his opponents set the schedule turning public attention away from Trump’s big victory. What a momentum killer.

It's certain everyone will be eagerly watching tonight's SOTU address. Like most Republicans, I will be in my recliner chewing handfuls of popcorn. It's likely most Democrats will be on the edge of their seat chewing their nails.

 

[johnny karate]

Ironically, Putin made his first move on Ukraine during the Obama administration, with clear signals from the White House that they would be allowed to get away with it.

Then nothing during the Trump administration.

Then, after Biden replaces Trump, Putin makes his second move on Ukraine.

I think this sequence of events tends to falsify the hypothesis that Trump encourages Russian aggression.

Here’s Trump literally encouraging Russian aggression:

I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Hmm that is a possibility. VT and VA are open primaries for example.

She also did relatively well in UT which is closed. But politics in UT are unique.

Kentucky politics are as strange as Utah. We routinely elect Democrat Governors while voting Republican on most every other race. It's not party politics here, it's who will get the job done correctly.