What's the more ethical profession?

[bluesjnr]

Do you mean Iraq and Disputable?

Of course he/she does and PW well done for asking and in doing so clarifying for poor old Resume who, apparently, is incapable of parsing a sentence unless it is written in perfect English.

Only the most willfully ignorant, pig-headed individuals would go to any lengths to deliberately "misunderstand" what Aepervius was saying.

 

[Resume]

Of course he/she does and PW well done for asking and in doing so clarifying for poor old Resume who, apparently, is incapable of parsing a sentence unless it is written in perfect English.

Only the most willfully ignorant, pig-headed individuals would go to any lengths to deliberately "misunderstand" what Aepervius was saying.

I apologize for that remark . . . too many beers.

 

[KingMerv00]

I apologize for that remark . . . too many beers.

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[Resume]

Sentence fragment.

I apologize for my thoughtless remark. It was fueled by too many beers.

 

[John Jones]

I apologize for my thoughtless remark. It was fueled by too many beers.

OK then.

 

[Complexity]

Yes, both soldiers and prostitutes sell themselves. So do NFL players.

But the NFL provides us with entertainment and prostitutes provide sex. Both of which we could live without. Soldiers, on the other hand, do something that is constructive an necessary.

Soldiers don't always do constructive work, and it very often isn't necessary.

Putting your body and mind at the disposal of bad people, or merely at the disposal of others, isn't necessarily a moral act.

German soldiers under Hitler were solders, too.

Vietnam?

The current US conflicts?

Placing yourself under military command, or allowing yourself to be placed under military command, doesn't absolve you of moral responsibility for all of your actions.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

Heroes are heroes and it isn't jingoism, nor dogma; people in fact sacrifice for others. That you don't recognize this suggests you are very young or very immature or perhaps both. Spend some time in a VA hospital, among veterans that have lost limbs; talk to them and understand their loss and get back to me.

I have found your every argument in this entire thread to be complete jingoism and dogma. You like to tap the appeal to emotion key repeatedly too.

While I appreciate that you are proud of your father, you appear to be a member of the cult of heroes.

I could join up because I can't get a job in my home town, get sent to a completely unjust war, shoot some people, then get a leg blown off.

According to you I am now a hero and not just could I expect to be lauded by some, but in fact must be lauded by all.

I have no idea as to your personal level of maturity, but your posts in this thread have been immature. Aepervius and the OP, on the other hand, have merely been skeptical.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

In regards to the actual OP:

I find prostitution neither ethical nor unethical, in of itself. If they client is underage, or you are a married woman making cash on the side, then you're unethical.

The ethics of being a soldier is more complex. Just being a soldier, no, I see nothing unethical. It comes down to what you do as that soldier.

Did you volunteer, or were you drafted?
Is it a war of aggression, or of protectionism?
Did you follow orders you found contrary to your personal code of ethics?

It's a complex issue, and, of course, there are no universal rules for ethics.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

This reason would not apply in the particular case when a prostitute serves a single man, who is not subject to any agreements or expectations of fidelity, but we never heard of a prostitute who agrees to serve single men only.

What is a fancy mistress, or young trophy wife, if not a prostitute that serves one man only?

 

[quarky]

Soldiers don't always do constructive work, and it very often isn't necessary.

Putting your body and mind at the disposal of bad people, or merely at the disposal of others, isn't necessarily a moral act.

German soldiers under Hitler were solders, too.

Vietnam?

The current US conflicts?

Placing yourself under military command, or allowing yourself to be placed under military command, doesn't absolve you of moral responsibility for all of your actions.

Glad to hear that.
I have on-going difficulty with the "hero" jingoism and intense emotionalism tied into military "service" in general.
Most people that I know whom "served" were either drafted against their will, or they were in legal trouble at home and got an offer they couldn't refuse. Others saw an easy gig with very early retirement, and went for the 'lifer' option.
The issue is too touchy to address, but I feel certain that the majority of G.I.s have no clue what the fight is about.
The worst of the bunch simply want a chance to blow up stuff and kill some strangers. They sure as hell aren't all "heroes".

 

[plumjam]

Soldiers are knives, prostitutes are spoons.
Knives can be used by a serial killer to murder innocent people, or by your Dad to protect your family from intruders.
Spoons generally serve up mildly pleasant comfort food, after the consumption of which you may well feel a little guilty. Spoons can't do much harm or much good.
The most harm they generally do is when, driven by boredom, you whack them on your own head to try and get that amusing hollow sound.

 

[JJM 777]

What is a fancy mistress, or young trophy wife, if not a prostitute that serves one man only?

I guess you can say: what is a wife (or girlfriend) but a ________ that serves one man only (hopes the man anyway)?

The point for morality is whether the activity is honest or cheating. In these cases nobody cheats anyone, everyone is honest. Street prostitution involves the dishonest element of married or otherwise reserved men secretly cheating on their spouses.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

I guess you can say: what is a wife (or girlfriend) but a ________ that serves one man only (hopes the man anyway)?

I wouldn't go that far. A mistress or young trophy wife, they are women who use their looks and sexual favors to acquire money and status from well established, usually much older men. In this was they are like prostitutes with a long term contract.

Regular wives and girlfriends are usually mostly in it for your companionship and support (hopefully).

The point for morality is whether the activity is honest or cheating. In these cases nobody cheats anyone, everyone is honest. Street prostitution involves the dishonest element of married or otherwise reserved men secretly cheating on their spouses.

That doesn't argue for prostitution being inherently unethical, as unmarried men also use prostitutes. The prostitute merely provides a service.

Surely the burden of ethics falls upon the man? I guess you could make a case when the prostitute knows for sure that the man is married.

Still, not an inherently unethical profession, merely one prone to being so.

 

[lionking]

Don't know about ethical, but prostitution is just about the most honest transaction between two people. What you see is what you get. Market rates prevail.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

Don't know about ethical, but prostitution is just about the most honest transaction between two people. What you see is what you get. Market rates prevail.

Like hell.

Wigs, push-up bra, bum tightening pantyhose, make-up.

When I have all that on, the prostitute never knows what she's getting till we get back to her room.

 

[Jekyll's Guest]

And if that doesn't win the July pith awards, you can all pith off.

 

[Mirrorglass]

Soldiers are knives, prostitutes are spoons.
Knives can be used by a serial killer to murder innocent people, or by your Dad to protect your family from intruders.
Spoons generally serve up mildly pleasant comfort food, after the consumption of which you may well feel a little guilty. Spoons can't do much harm or much good.
The most harm they generally do is when, driven by boredom, you whack them on your own head to try and get that amusing hollow sound.

..or when you go around bending them to show your awesomeness and/or maximize your profits.

 

[Ivor the Engineer]

..or when you go around bending them to show your awesomeness and/or maximize your profits.

Is that an argument for the immorality of having sex in any position other than missionary?

 

[luchog]

prostitution is just about the most honest transaction between two people. What you see is what you get.

You've clearly never seen The Crying Game.

 

[Ladewig]

Don't know about ethical, but prostitution is just about the most honest transaction between two people. What you see is what you get. Market rates prevail.

In many jurisdictions, black market rates prevail.