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What's the more ethical profession?

Resume said:
Because I know the intent of certain soldiers. I certainly know the intent of my own father who served in the Navy in WWII. I know his motivation in enlisting, and I know the fear he experienced in this conflict. This was certainly not "making a living" and to equate it as such indicates the shallow nature of your understanding.
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My father served in a war, and all he wanted is to kill the other first before getting killed, and return back to his family children.

And I would also like to point out that the current war the US is involved it (Irak and Afghanistan) it is discutable if they reallyinvolve "freedom" as it was involved with WW2.
 
Resume said:
Heroes are heroes and it isn't jingoism, nor dogma; people in fact sacrifice for others. That you don't recognize this suggests you are very young or very immature or perhaps both. Spend some time in a VA hospital, among veterans that have lost limbs; talk to them and understand their loss and get back to me.
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Treating ALL soldiers as if they are heros just because they are soldiers is wrong. Even the military doesn't do that, that's why they have a court marshall process.

Honestly you sound like the one that is immature and idealistic.

Soldiers are people. You don't get angel wings and a halo just because you enlist. And the majority of people enlisted have never and will never fight a day in their lives. They are simply moved around the country. :rolleyes:
 
Aepervius said:
My father served in a war, and all he wanted is to kill the other first before getting killed, and return back to his family children.

And I would also like to point out that the current war the US is involved it (Irak and Afghanistan) it is discutable if they reallyinvolve "freedom" as it was involved with WW2.
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No offense but can you frame this question in English?
 
Resume said:
No offense but can you frame this question in English?
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No offense but there is no question but two statement.

1) my father only wanted to survive and go back to his family

2) you keep bringing up heroe and WW2, but time embelish things (not all fighter in WW2 were heroe) and WW2 was arguably about freedom and fighting agaisnt a clear menance while for irak and afghanistan it is highly discutable

Where do you see a question on that ?
 
Aepervius said:
No offense but there is no question but two statement.

1) my father only wanted to survive and go back to his family

2) you keep bringing up heroe and WW2, but time embelish things (not all fighter in WW2 were heroe) and WW2 was arguably about freedom and fighting agaisnt a clear menance while for irak and afghanistan it is highly discutable

Where do you see a question on that ?
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#2 I do not understand Irak, menance, and discutable.
 
Resume said:
And they in fact do distribute these to those that deserve them. Under hostile fire.
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And you overgeneralize a lot and dip a bit too much in heroe worship.

The question asked in the op is not stupid, and the fact that we can come to different answer depending on culture, epoch, is an indication of the relativity of the answer.
 
truethat said:
Treating ALL soldiers as if they are heros just because they are soldiers is wrong. Even the military doesn't do that, that's why they have a court marshall process.

Honestly you sound like the one that is immature and idealistic.

Soldiers are people. You don't get angel wings and a halo just because you enlist. And the majority of people enlisted have never and will never fight a day in their lives. They are simply moved around the country. :rolleyes:
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Is English your native tongue?
 
Aepervius said:
And you overgeneralize a lot and dip a bit too much in heroe worship.

The question asked in the op is not stupid, and the fact that we can come to different answer depending on culture, epoch, is an indication of the relativity of the answer.
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You can't spell and over . . . everything a lot.
 
Resume said:
#2 I do not understand Irak, menance, and discutable.
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Menace not menance. Spelling error.

Irak = a country
Discutable=contestable

And what is not understandable ?

Irak is a country which was invaded by the US, and a lot of people were killed, and no I am not counting the military. Irak was not a menace at all to ther US. Where was the heroism in that war ? I see only a blood bath. And where is the heroism in piloting a drone to kill 5600 km away some guy in a truck ?

Where is the heroism in killing a bunch of people, one with a camera, and then afterward killing those which come to the rescue, a young boy included ?

Sorry, soldate on average are not heroe. They are just human allowed to murder other human in the name of their own giovernement. Sometimes it is needed, necessary, but painting it as an exalting great things is beyond pale.

At least prostitue favorize peace, and help stabilisation of societies.
 
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Aepervius said:
You realize you are on an international forum, with various degree of mastery of english, right ? Because it seems to me that when you have no argument, you just wallow into grammatical nazism.
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You are right of course. Can you, or someone you know, frame your question of me in English? I have a degree of Mexican Spanish as well, if that helps.
 
Resume said:
You are right of course. Can you, or someone you know, frame your question of me in English? I have a degree of Mexican Spanish as well, if that helps.
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In other word you can't bring yourself to argue the points, so instead, you will just pretend that they are completely non understandable, and mock other non english native people for their non perfect grammatic and spelling.

Thank you for implicitely admitting that your position is not well founded and you have no argument to counter ours.
 
Aepervius said:
In other word you can't bring yourself to argue the points, so instead, you will just pretend that they are completely non understandable, and mock other non english native people for their non perfect grammatic and spelling.

Thank you for implicitely admitting that your position is not well founded and you have no argument to counter ours.
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No. Actually I don't understand what you are saying.
 
Richard Masters said:
What's the more ethical profession? Becoming a prostitute or becoming a soldier?

ETA: To add some context: an acquaintance thinks that prostitution is an immoral way to make money. I then noted that joining the military is too because both prostitutes and soldiers sell their bodies.
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If a soldier is someone who sells their body, how is that different being a laborer? Don't they also sell their bodies?
 
Aepervius said:
And where is the heroism in piloting a drone to kill 5600 km away some guy in a truck ?
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Would it be more heroic to rip off their shirts and go kill the enemy with their bare hands?

It's a job. Like any job, you want to do it as efficiently and with as little risk as possible.


Aepervius said:
Sorry, soldate on average are not heroe. They are just human allowed to murder other human in the name of their own giovernement. Sometimes it is needed, necessary, but painting it as an exalting great things is beyond pale.
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People become soldiers for many reasons. Among the most noble of reasons is the desire to serve something greater than yourself, and many do exactly that at the risk of their time, money and lives.
 
Yes, both soldiers and prostitutes sell themselves. So do NFL players.

But the NFL provides us with entertainment and prostitutes provide sex. Both of which we could live without. Soldiers, on the other hand, do something that is constructive an necessary.
 
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