Denmark

[Thomas]

You can feel free to call the Danish state the government, as the state are supposed to carry out the tasks and politics set by the government. That's why it is defined as follows in the Danish dictionary:

Translated to english;

From Politikens Danish dictionary 2001:

State: A country's government and the public administration.

Government: A states highest political management with (many) ministers.

They are not seperated from eachother as such, because in many cases the state has to do what the government says.

 

[brodski]

No slugging out at all. What Brodski just described was the trick my professor was pulling, in short to read the British Consitution in its entirety would require reading several centuries worth of documents and common law. That ought to be worth an A.

some of it is good for a laugh though, especially the bits about the Crown taking an MP hostage, and the rules about opera hats.

 

[CFLarsen]

You can feel free to call the Danish state the government, as the state are supposed to carry out the tasks and politics set by the government. That's why it is defined as follows in the Danish dictionary:

Translated to english;

From Politikens Danish dictionary 2001:

State: A country's government and the public administration.

Government: A states highest political management with (many) ministers.

They are not seperated from eachother as such, because in many cases the state has to do what the government says.

Of course.

What's really interesting is that even when the government says so, it's not always followed by the state.

How else would we get to do what we like most - sit in plenum and make compromises?

 

[Grammatron]

You can feel free to call the Danish state the government, as the state are supposed to carry out the tasks and politics set by the government. That's why it is defined as follows in the Danish dictionary:

Translated to english;

From Politikens Danish dictionary 2001:

State: A country's government and the public administration.

Government: A states highest political management with (many) ministers.

They are not seperated from eachother as such, because in many cases the state has to do what the government says.

I see, thank you.

 

[CFLarsen]

some of it is good for a laugh though, especially the bits about the Crown taking an MP hostage, and the rules about opera hats.

Spare us any more stories of your weird sex lives....

 

[brodski]

Spare us any more stories of your weird sex lives....

yeah yeah, we know you vikings, like to talk or macho, but you really like nothing better than getting your hands on a young northern monk...

 

[Grammatron]

Of course.

Are you agreeing with him?

 

[Huntster]

Denmark has the same three branches of government that most modern countries have.

The prosecutor is not a part of the government (regeringen).

That appears to be self-contradictory.

If "Denmark has the same three branches of government that most modern countries have," then the prosecutor represents the government. At least, that is how it is in both the United States and Alaska government.

If "the state" represents the nation or state itself, and "the government" represents the individuals holding and executing positions and duties for the state, how could the prosecutor not be a member of government, specifically the judicial branch?

 

[CFLarsen]

Are you agreeing with him?

We don't disagree, if that's what you mean. There is nothing that Thomas said that contradicts what I said.

 

[brodski]

That appears to be self-contradictory.

If "Denmark has the same three branches of government that most modern countries have," then the prosecutor represents the government. At least, that is how it is in both the United States and Alaska government.

If "the state" represents the nation or state itself, and "the government" represents the individuals holding and executing positions and duties for the state, how could the prosecutor not be a member of government, specifically the judicial branch?

because the way Claus uses the term government (and I sue the term Government) is most closely analogous to the US's executive branch

 

[Grammatron]

We don't disagree, if that's what you mean. There is nothing that Thomas said that contradicts what I said.

Well, you are wrong, then. Government and state are two different things in Denmark.

You can feel free to call the Danish state the government, as the state are supposed to carry out the tasks and politics set by the government. That's why it is defined as follows in the Danish dictionary:
...
They are not seperated from eachother as such, because in many cases the state has to do what the government says.

Of course.

Hmm.

 

[CFLarsen]

That appears to be self-contradictory.

If "Denmark has the same three branches of government that most modern countries have," then the prosecutor represents the government. At least, that is how it is in both the United States and Alaska government.

If "the state" represents the nation or state itself, and "the government" represents the individuals holding and executing positions and duties for the state, how could the prosecutor not be a member of government, specifically the judicial branch?

Not self-contradictory at all.

The prosecutor represents the state, not the government. The prosecutor is not replaced, if we change government.

 

[CFLarsen]

because the way Claus uses the term government (and I sue the term Government) is most closely analogous to the US's executive branch

The way we use it, here in Denmark.

 

[CFLarsen]

Hmm.

Is there something you don't understand?

 

[Grammatron]

Is there something you don't understand?

Thomas is arguing opposite of what you are yet you do not disagree with him and yet disagree with me when I am arguing same as he is.

 

[CFLarsen]

Thomas is arguing opposite of what you are yet you do not disagree with him and yet disagree with me when I am arguing same as he is.

How is it opposite?

 

[Grammatron]

How is it opposite?

You say state and government are seporate, Thomas says "You can feel free to call the Danish state the government."

 

[HarryKeogh]

I understand that and don't disagree with it, but to me, not only can I use 'government' to describe both but I can interchange those terms in this case and people would understand me.

Not if you want to accurately describe the political system in Denmark.

You can feel free to call the Danish state the government, as the state are supposed to carry out the tasks and politics set by the government.

Of course.

 

[CFLarsen]

You say state and government are seporate, Thomas says "You can feel free to call the Danish state the government."

....and what did he say after that?

 

[Grammatron]

....and what did he say after that?

Is there something you want say?